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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostWMDs and uranium yellowcake.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostFake news, Jimmy. CNN's Jake Tapper has already debunked that narrative.
"What's been articulated in the news is that the intelligence community has concluded that the Russians are trying to help Trump again. But the intelligence doesn't say that..."
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...41728493592576
Trump is actually colluding with the Russians once again by denying his own Intel. agency report and firing the DNI, and the deputy to the DNI, for doing their job and reporting it to Congress.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostThis is what a naive nincompoop you are you are, MM. You rant and rave about un-named sources and fake news and then you accept the words of an un-named source who spoke to Jake Tapper...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostCNN's Jake Tapper breaks ranks and does some actual journalism for a change. According to his sources, the Russian government has developed a preference for Trump because "they understand the president is someone they can work with, he's a dealmaker.
But not that they prefer him over Sanders or Buttigieg or anyone else" and that there is no evidence the Russians are trying to help Trump win. Tapper also said the reason Trump was frustrated with McGuire is because he briefed Congress without briefing the White House and that "[the President] had to hear about an intelligence conclusion from a Member of the House Republicans rather than from the intelligence community."
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostThat makes much more sense. Trump hasn't been a good Putin "puppet" at all, considering his attacks on Assad, pullout from the Iran deal (not to mention the Solemaini hit), adding additional Russian sanctions, refusal to recognize Crimean annexation, and attempts to thwart the Gazprom pipeline. When all that dust settles, he's worse for Russia than Obama was; Obama merely threatened to attack Assad ("red line") and Trump actually did it - twice.
I think Russians perceive Obama and Hillary as entrenched militarists and anti-Russian. I certainly agree with that regarding Hillary. Going into 2020, the same also applies to Biden. Trump isn't anti Russian and he isn't pro Russian. Now, if their (meaning the Russian government and not independent Russian actors) interference amounts to stooges and bots on social media making false claims, I believe the same might apply to governments other than Russia. I'd be curious if anyone is investigating shenanigans from Germany or Canada, or China or Cuba. Or Saudi Arabia.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostCNN's Jake Tapper breaks ranks and does some actual journalism for a change. According to his sources, the Russian government has developed a preference for Trump because "they understand the president is someone they can work with, he's a dealmaker. But not that they prefer him over Sanders or Buttigieg or anyone else" and that there is no evidence the Russians are trying to help Trump win. Tapper also said the reason Trump was frustrated with McGuire is because he briefed Congress without briefing the White House and that "[the President] had to hear about an intelligence conclusion from a Member of the House Republicans rather than from the intelligence community."
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Originally posted by seanD View PostDoesn't this just enforce the Russian wants Trump to win narrative they're pushing?
Perhaps this time round, the Russians will work toward a Sanders victory against Trump. Perhaps they just to want to cause as much chaos and confusion as possible. Perhaps they're just trying to undermine the average person's confidence in the democratic process."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostTapper's saying the intelligence indicates Russia is interfering, but saying it doesn't clearly indicate what their interference is trying to achieve.
Perhaps this time round, the Russians will work toward a Sanders victory against Trump. Perhaps they just to want to cause as much chaos and confusion as possible. Perhaps they're just trying to undermine the average person's confidence in the democratic process.Last edited by seanD; 02-22-2020, 08:42 PM.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostTapper's saying the intelligence indicates Russia is interfering, but saying it doesn't clearly indicate what their interference is trying to achieve.
Perhaps this time round, the Russians will work toward a Sanders victory against Trump. Perhaps they just to want to cause as much chaos and confusion as possible. Perhaps they're just trying to undermine the average person's confidence in the democratic process.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYep, they are trying to help Bernie because they think that a Sanders nomination will help put their man Trump back in the White House. Too bad Trump couldn't denounce the Russian efforts like Bernie did, instead of covering for them and denying it's happening.
Or they want Sanders because he is a Commie sympathizer who has praised Russia for 40 years and even spent his honeymoon in the USSR.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostWell, Tapper is saying that his White House source told him that the intel doesn't clearly indicate the interference was aimed at helping Trump to win. In other words the White House is contradicting the original report, which was that Congress was informed that Russia's aim is to help Trump win.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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