The Impeachment Trial

[firstfloor]

I pay no mind to what Trump says, but what he does.

He does land mines.

WaPo

Do you approve?

[Tassman]

Of course it requires an actual crime. Read the Constitution as our Founding Fathers were quite clear on that point and even gave two explicit examples of the nature and severity of crimes that would compel impeachment. This whole idea that a president can be removed from office simply because some diplomats disagree with his foreign policy decisions is very dangerous.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...SKgas5dmnWHPdg

[firstfloor]

A very stupid lawyer:

[lilpixieofterror]

Who was supposed to interview witnesses and bring forth evidence to debate?

[One Bad Pig]

As usual, your trolling is refreshingly obvious.

In case the point went zipping over your head, the lawyer in question is referring to the specious "abuse of power" charge, brought because the Democrats in the House (most of them) didn't like one of Trump's policy decisions.

[One Bad Pig]

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...SKgas5dmnWHPdg

I find it fascinating that furriners so often feel the burning need to opine on our politics.

[Mountain Man]

Here are the facts: Donald Trump broke the law when he withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid from Ukraine to pressure them to interfere in the 2020 election.

False.

1) In fact, the president has some discretion when it comes to releasing funds even when they've been allocated by Congress. In fact, he can choose to not release them at all so long as he informs Congress before the deadline. In Trump's case, he did release the funds before the deadline, so it's ultimately a moot point.

2) Trump never said one word to Ukraine about the 2020 election. His focus was on past wrongs committed by Quid Pro Joe Biden.

[Mountain Man]

That's precisely what this case is about. Witness after witness during the inquiry says they were never concerned that Trump had broken the law. They simply disagreed with his approach to foreign policy.

So we have a no-witnesses...

False. There were 18 witnesses who testified to the House --of course Schiff only let us hear from 17 of them because number 18 fully exonerated the President.

[JimL]

False.

1) In fact, the president has some discretion when it comes to releasing funds even when they've been allocated by Congress. In fact, he can choose to not release them at all so long as he informs Congress before the deadline. In Trump's case, he did release the funds before the deadline, so it's ultimately a moot point.

Sorry, I'll take the GAO's decision that the Impoundment Control act was violated over your opinion that it was not. Besides, we know Trump only released the funds, when he released them, because he got caught.

2) Trump never said one word to Ukraine about the 2020 election. His focus was on past wrongs committed by Quid Pro Joe Biden.

Then why did he wait 3 years before undertaking his secret investigation demand when Biden announced his intent to run? Besides that, if he honestly thought Biden should be investigated there are legal channels through which to do that and extorting a foreign country by means of withholding appropriated funds and risking national security, aiding a common adversary in the process, is not the legal way to do that.

[Cow Poke]

He does land mines.

Sure he does.

WaPo

Do you approve?

I'm having a bacon-egg-cheese taco, of which I very much approve.

[Cow Poke]

Here are the facts:

• The incredibly inept highly partisan Democrats botched this sham impeachment
• Trump will be forever impeached but forever acquitted
• The Democrats have paved the way for TrumpII
• The Democrats have since moved on to botching the Iowa Caucus

Those are all the facts you need.

[lilpixieofterror]

• The incredibly inept highly partisan Democrats botched this sham impeachment
• Trump will be forever impeached but forever acquitted
• The Democrats have paved the way for TrumpII
• The Democrats have since moved on to botching the Iowa Caucus

Those are all the facts you need.

The best part...

These idiots want to run your healthcare.

[Cow Poke]

The best part...

These idiots want to run your healthcare.

The worst part --- they want to run OUR COUNTRY!!! (is there an app for that?)

[lilpixieofterror]

The worst part --- they want to run OUR COUNTRY!!! (is there an app for that?)

Good news is displaying this level of ineptness and incompetence helps fence sitters make their choice and makes liberals more likely to stay home.

[Mountain Man]

Sorry, I'll take the GAO's decision that the Impoundment Control act was violated...

A non-binding opinion from a group that regularly accuses US presidents of breaking the law. So what?

Then why did he wait 3 years before undertaking his secret investigation demand when Biden announced his intent to run?

This looks suspiciously like another case of "guilty until proven innocent".