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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostIt's highly unlikely that the DOJ didn't know ahead of time what the recommended sentence was to be...
You claim that nearly a decade in prison is standard for a crime like this? Cite your source.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's very likely when you have a rogue operative like Aaron Zelinsky who submitted a recommendation without clearing it with his bosses first.
You claim that nearly a decade in prison is standard for a crime like this? Cite your source.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, 7-9 years is the recommended guildelines for sentencing a defendent convicted of lying to congress, obstruction of justice, and intimidating witnesses, which were the charges that Stone was convicted of and which is what the prosecution recommended. What would you in your professional opinion as a legal expert recommend as a sentence?
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Perjury and lying to the federal government are both crimes that could land a person in some serious legal trouble. If convicted of either crime, a person could be looking at up to five years in prison. This means that if a person is found to have lied during a congressional hearing or investigation, or simply lied to an FBI or other federal agent, actual jail time could result.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHow bout an actual source, Jim? I'll show you mine then you show me yours.
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Perjury and lying to the federal government are both crimes that could land a person in some serious legal trouble. If convicted of either crime, a person could be looking at up to five years in prison. This means that if a person is found to have lied during a congressional hearing or investigation, or simply lied to an FBI or other federal agent, actual jail time could result.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat makes it clear enough, CP. 5 years in prison just for lying to Congress. Stone was also convicted of obstruction of justice and intimidating witnesses.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, provide your source, Jim.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostYes, 7-9 years is the recommended guildelines for sentencing a defendent convicted of lying to congress, obstruction of justice, and intimidating witnesses, which were the charges that Stone was convicted of and which is what the prosecution recommended.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostCP, you just proved it yourself.
5 years for obstructing justice.
Now add to that intimidating witnesses, lack of regret on the part of the defendent, along with the seriousness of the case and 2 to 4 more years is hardly unfair. Why are you arguing the point, with what you already know (5 years for obstruction). Do you think the 2-4 years added to the sentence for intimidating witnesses is to harsh?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostCP, cited it for you. 5 years for obstruction of justice.
Add to that the intimidation of witnesses, and lying under oath,
and figure it out for yourself.
Pretty please?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, Jim --- in cases where there are multiple offenses, the maximum sentence for EACH is not added up together. I gave an example that ONE of those charges would be "up to" 5 years.
No, Jim, that's not what it says at all. It clearly says UP TO 5 years, indicating that 5 years is the maximum.
How bout sources, rather than spewing forth wild guesses?
Btw, this isn't the first time this Administration has done this, they did the same in the Flynn case, or in other words Trump has control over the DOJ.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI never said that the maximum was added for each offense....
Prattle on, brother!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostCP, cited it for you. 5 years for obstruction of justice. Add to that the intimidation of witnesses, and lying under oath, and figure it out for yourself.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNope, CP's source doesn't help you.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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