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Last edited by Mountain Man; 01-11-2020, 10:57 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMeanwhile, the only doctor in the country responsible for Trump's health and who has personally examined him (unlike the 350 quacks who signed the petition) says "the President remains in very good health overall".
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostWould you agree that, if it could be shown that Trump isn't 6'3", it would call into question the rest of his analysis?
But I'll bite: what evidence do you have that Trump isn't the height his doctor says he is?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNot really, because it's not like they measure height with laser precision. My height can easily vary by an inch or two depending on a number of factors, such as whether or not I'm wearing shoes, how straight I'm standing, whether it's a digital measurement or the nurse is just eyeballing it, and so on.
But I'll bite: what evidence do you have that Trump isn't the height his doctor says he is?Last edited by DivineOb; 01-12-2020, 01:32 AM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNot really, because it's not like they measure height with laser precision. My height can easily vary by an inch or two depending on a number of factors, such as whether or not I'm wearing shoes, how straight I'm standing, whether it's a digital measurement or the nurse is just eyeballing it, and so on.
But I'll bite: what evidence do you have that Trump isn't the height his doctor says he is?
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostYes. You spoke like Trump has spoken because of your medical condition. I'm asking for a fourth possibility beyond the three I listed.
Fair point. So, let's listen to 350 professionals
A group of 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are set to submit a petition to Congress on Thursday claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is rapidly deteriorating amid the impeachment inquiry.
"We are speaking out at this time because we are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University, wrote in a statement accompanying the petition, which was first reported by the British outlet The Independent.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI've been 5'16" for a number of decades now but yeah sometimes when I'm at my doctor they weigh and measure me with my shoes on and sometimes with them off.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post5'16", huh? Is that metric?
I love using it when someone asks how tall I am. The double takes are priceless.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMe older little twin brudder from anudder mudder taught me that one.
I love using it when someone asks how tall I am. The double takes are priceless.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostYes. You spoke like Trump has spoken because of your medical condition. I'm asking for a fourth possibility beyond the three I listed.
Translate that next sentence into English, please - no idea what you mean there.
1) Mental impairment
2) Mental illness
3) Temporary impairment due to reaction to allergen or medication (that's NOT a 'medical condition' either)
4) Impediment of unknown cause (my category)
So yes, there are other possibilities - and I didn't include 5) Stress and 6) Fatigue since Lil already covered them.
Fair point. So, let's listen to 350 professionals
A group of 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are set to submit a petition to Congress on Thursday claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is rapidly deteriorating amid the impeachment inquiry.
"We are speaking out at this time because we are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University, wrote in a statement accompanying the petition, which was first reported by the British outlet The Independent.
Eighteen years as a professional DIS tells me what an absolute crock that is - without an interview, I wouldn't even consider evaluating an STD case - and at least I'd have test results to confirm the case which is more than that group of alphabet drunk hacks can say. REAL professionals don't pretend they can do their jobs magically - any real psychiatrist or psycholgist will tell you they need to talk to the patient and get the responses before they can evaluate properly.
And 'first reported by the British'? Say what? These idiots can't even put out a normal PSA? How the heck is a Britsh paper scooping American media in their own backyard? Something is very wrong with that picture."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Those idiots who thought Clinton had a brain tumor? Yeah, same exact thing."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostWould you agree that, if it could be shown that Trump isn't 6'3", it would call into question the rest of his analysis?
AND then there's the fact that height changes overtime - some times dramatically - yet most doctors don't gauge height for regular visits. Then there's the difficulty of a 5'3" nurse trying to measure a 6'4" man. And the half inch or so that can change over the course of a day...
So it would prove what everyone already knew - the gauges aren't precise and measurements of height vary. So what?
Oh, and one little thing more - doctors almost never measure height themselves - so why should it affect how we view his analysis? That he hired a nearsighted nurse tells me he needs help in the HR dept, not that he's a bad doctor.Last edited by Teallaura; 01-12-2020, 10:59 PM."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo.
As to the other post, Trump didn't have that "speech impediment" in the not too distant past. If this is a recent development then, as president, he owes us an explanation. As was the case with Sanders, Clinton, and others.
He's seeking to be president for a bit over 5 more years. Given the indisputable progression of his "speech impediment" over the past 3 it's a highly concerning situation to say the least. Wouldn't you feel better about giving him your vote rather than giving to Pence or Haley if you had a clear an unequivocal explanation?
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostYes, I considered that he might not be as tall as he used to be and has not been remeasured recently (and I don't remember the last time I was remeasured in a physical either). In a later post to MM I recanted of the the height discussion because I realize it is pretty silly and too much of a TDS thing. I still think he's not 6'3" though.
As to the other post, Trump didn't have that "speech impediment" in the not too distant past. If this is a recent development then, as president, he owes us an explanation. As was the case with Sanders, Clinton, and others.
Rethink that - do you really want an explanation for every hiccup, bad hair day and tongue trip? Because no one owes you as employer an explanation for their private matters that do not substantively affect performance and if we set such a precedent, there will be no end. Heck, it could even be used to demand DNA - and why stop with sitting presidents? Betcha someone out there still wants to prove Obama wasn't born in Hawaii...
He's seeking to be president for a bit over 5 more years. Given the indisputable progression of his "speech impediment" over the past 3 it's a highly concerning situation to say the least. Wouldn't you feel better about giving him your vote rather than giving to Pence or Haley if you had a clear an unequivocal explanation?
And there is dispute - a video montage is not diagnostic - not by a long shot. Even less so when weaponized politically.
Pence is on Trump's ticket - so, are you now mentally impaired because you literally just posted nonsense? Or can we chalk it up to 'nobody's perfect'? If the latter, be nice and show Trump the same latitude you want for yourself.Last edited by Teallaura; 01-13-2020, 01:20 AM."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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