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Originally posted by Sparko View Postuh no it doesn't. "Abuse of Power" is not even a crime. If there was an actual crime they would have made a separate article for it.
Just saying it isn't in the articles is not an argument being that it is clearly spelled out in detail in both the articles and at trial.
All of that is an accusation and an inference of his motives. There is no evidence it is true. And you just admitted it wasn't a crime.Last edited by JimL; 01-24-2020, 03:21 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf you would just read the Articles, and watch the trial, you would see the extortion, the quid pro quo, the withholding of appropriated aid to an ally Ukraine to do defend themselves as well as the U.S. from Russian aggression, as well as the lack of any other logical reason for it other than to force Zelensky to publicly announce on CNN that the Ukraine was investigating Biden to give advantage the presidents upcoming re-election bid.
Just saying it isn't in the articles is not an argument being that it is clearly spelled out in detail in both the articles and at trial.
There is overwhelming evidence, and you guys, being that you are unwilling or unable to overcome your bias, obviously have blinders on, so to speak.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI read the articles. I watched the House Hearings and part of the Trial. No one is charging Trump with the crime of Extortion. Which is an ACTUAL crime with laws against it. Which would be impeachable. The dems, like you, toss out the term with their accusations, but they didn't put it in the Articles nor have they given any actual evidence for it.
I hope the Republicans get to that in their rebuttals.
(Right now, Sylvia Garcia is decrying Trump's tweets where he blasts the partisan Democrats for the sham prosecution they're running)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI read the articles. I watched the House Hearings and part of the Trial. No one is charging Trump with the crime of Extortion. Which is an ACTUAL crime with laws against it. Which would be impeachable. The dems, like you, toss out the term with their accusations, but they didn't put it in the Articles nor have they given any actual evidence for it.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd this sham "obstruction" charge --- it was NOT "obstruction of Congress", it was resisting the very partisan attack on the Presidency by only the DEMOCRATS in ONE CHAMBER of Congress, who ignored the THIRD branch of government.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAgain, they've detailed it both in the articles and in their prosecution. If you aren't seeing it, it's simply because you don't want to see it. But I can assure you that your republican representatives in the Senate see it, it's just a matter of whether they are going to put themselves or their country first. Those patriots who chose to stand up for their country and testify against the Presidents orders, putting their own careers on the line, chose to put their country first. We will see how many patriots there are amongst the Republican members of the Senate.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAgain, they've detailed it both in the articles and in their prosecution. If you aren't seeing it, it's simply because you don't want to see it. But I can assure you that your republican representatives in the Senate see it, it's just a matter of whether they are going to put themselves or their country first. Those patriots who chose to stand up for their country and testify against the Presidents orders, putting their own careers on the line, chose to put their country first. We will see how many patriots there are amongst the Republican members of the Senate.That's what
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd more than that, Trump invoked executive privilege which he is legally entitled to do and is therefore not obstruction by definition.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostSo funny to watch the Trumpian mutual admiration society reassure each other about just how right they are.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostApparently I'm so right that you can only respond with an impotent ad hominem.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd more than that, Trump invoked executive privilege which he is legally entitled to do and is therefore not obstruction by definition.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYesterday, George Staphylococcus was caught on camera signalling to cut away from Jay Sekulow mid interview so he could "analyze" what Trump's defense lawyers were saying.
https://twitter.com/TimJGraham/statu...rump-lawyer%2F
He looks a bit embarrassed at having been caught in the act.
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