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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostGranted - but that wasn't the question. In the South, Lincoln has a more positive than negative reputation - and we all still think the Court was wrong.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou imply that they're a bunch of unrepentant racists with a "lot white silk sheets in the closet" (KKK robes) but have friends there. So how long have you been paling around with KKK members?
So the discussion is similar to the discussion on the meaning of the Confederate flags and the meaning of the Confederate monuments. The Unite the Right at Charlottesville was about that, as well as the meaning for those ideas for today's politics.
The neoconfederate groups describe Lincoln in terms of a tyrant, which is hardly positive. Many emphasize the goals of the Confederate war effort as defensive, the Union as an aggressor; the south as respecting the spirit of the constitution written by the founding fathers, Lincoln as expanding the central government's prerogatives.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhen I was in History and Civics back in High Skewl other kids would actually use me to fact check what the teacher said.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostGranted - but that wasn't the question. In the South, Lincoln has a more positive than negative reputation - and we all still think the Court was wrong.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View Post*emphasis mine
Did too, and now you're both wrong.
Lincoln's version of reunification was much better than Reconstruction and, unlike you history ignorant Yankees, every Southerner knows it. My guess is you have no clue why Johnson was impeached.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIrrelevant, many in the South are still butt hurt for Lincolns leadership in crushing the Souths treasonous insurrection regardless of his post war policy. There are still a lot of John Wilkes Booth types in the South, the Klan, confederate flag wavers, racists, i.e. Lincoln haters, and though their ilk is waning they make still themselves known.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIrrelevant, many in the South are still butt hurt for Lincolns leadership in crushing the Souths treasonous insurrection regardless of his post war policy. There are still a lot of John Wilkes Booth types in the South, the Klan, confederate flag wavers, racists, i.e. Lincoln haters, and though their ilk is waning they continue to make themselves known.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 12-03-2019, 09:46 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd you know this, how, exactly? In what part of the South do you reside, Jim? Got any actual cites?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostWhenever I get a new troop, they are likely from a southern state or the Midwest. If the south hates America so much, why join the US military?
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostWhenever I get a new troop, they are likely from a southern state or the Midwest. If the south hates America so much, why join the US military?
No says Southerners hate America, and yes they are flag waving patriots in their own way. just as far as Lincoln is concerned the sympathies range from dislike to hate. They join the military fo, of course several reasons including their own versions of patriotism. Racism and traditional Southern sympathies remain strong. All of the time I have lived in the USA I have lived in the South.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postu
No says Southerners hate America, and yes they are flag waving patriots in their own way. just as far as Lincoln is concerned the sympathies range from dislike to hate. They join the military fo, of course several reasons including their own versions of patriotism. Racism and traditional Southern sympathies remain strong. All of the time I have lived in the USA I have lived in the South.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostLilpix, comprehension, comprehension, learn to read! This is about Southern Conservatives and their feelings toward Lincoln, not about the South and it's feelings about America.
The military leans conservative Jimmy. Now again, why would they join up, in larger numbers, if they hate America?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postu
No says Southerners hate America, and yes they are flag waving patriots in their own way. just as far as Lincoln is concerned the sympathies range from dislike to hate. They join the military fo, of course several reasons including their own versions of patriotism. Racism and traditional Southern sympathies remain strong. All of the time I have lived in the USA I have lived in the South."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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