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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, answer me this Sparko, I'm not sure if I specifically asked this of you before, but do you think everyone should be free to possess their own nuclear weapons, or should that right be infringed upon?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHe did suggest they could work with Democrats on gun legislation if it targeted criminals instead of gun owners.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post"Bearing arms" is pretty clear it means personal weapons like guns and knives, etc. "arms" comes from being able to carry ("bear") the weapon and use it in a fight.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI see, so you do agree that there is a limitation? You can carry/bear bombs by the way.
Or.. we can understand that "arms" means "firearms" not "bombs"
How would you defend yourself personally using a nuclear bomb? You would kill yourself in the process.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOr.. we can understand that "arms" means "firearms" not "bombs"
How would you defend yourself personally using a nuclear bomb? You would kill yourself in the process.
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So we know there is an upper limit on the weapons allowed by the first amendment, atom bombs are not included.
Next question is the whether the 20mm Cannon or a howitzer ownership should be protected, I assume not because those cannot be carried.
Which brings us down in size (and power) to something like the m2, a 50cal crew served machine gun used as the basic heavy machine gun in the army (usually mounted in a jeep but carried by Arnold Schwarzenegger). Should ownership of that weapon be protected as a right?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOr.. we can understand that "arms" means "firearms" not "bombs"Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostSo we know there is an upper limit on the weapons allowed by the first amendment, atom bombs are not included.
Next question is the whether the 20mm Cannon or a howitzer ownership should be protected, I assume not because those cannot be carried.
Which brings us down in size (and power) to something like the m2, a 50cal crew served machine gun used as the basic heavy machine gun in the army (usually mounted in a jeep but carried by Arnold Schwarzenegger). Should ownership of that weapon be protected as a right?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by seer View PostHow about this: a mandatory five years in prison for anyone using a firearm in the commission of a felony. The leftists would never accept it...
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOr.. we can understand that "arms" means "firearms" not "bombs"
How would you defend yourself personally using a nuclear bomb? You would kill yourself in the process.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think the standard of "undue risk" should be applied. In other words, does the risk to the community outweigh the benefits to the person wielding it? That's an easy judgment call to make for nuclear devices. It's not so clearcut when discussing firearms. Even a mounted machine gun doesn't obviously fail the test.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think the standard of "undue risk" should be applied. In other words, does the risk to the community outweigh the benefits to the person wielding it? That's an easy judgment call to make for nuclear devices. It's not so clearcut when discussing firearms. Even a mounted machine gun doesn't obviously fail the test.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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