Second Amendment Sanctuary

[Leonhard]

I wonder how they will handle things like parking? If you give it a destination, will it be able to find parking for you, navigate parking garages (pay ones) etc? I am sure that there will still be a lot of manual driving involved for some time to come.

Parking they do a lot more easily. That's not the big problem. And parking garages I don't foresee taking long before they have systems in place capable of accepting wireless pay, that's just an easy straightforward development.

I also don't foresee humans hand driving their vehicles becoming illegal, or even impossible in the near future. I do believe however that you would have a moral imperative to not drive your own car, if it was shown to be significantly safer for the car to drive on autopilot.

[simplicio]

I tend to be techno optimist and even I thought the 2020 date was a bit early. It does appear to be coming though. My first car very likely won't have class 5 full auto, but my second one probably will have at this rate.

Interesting article https://www.firstthings.com/web-excl...rithm-religion

Quite a few ethic dilemmas, conundrums, could be gleaned from that article! (how would the programmer feel knowing he wrote the algorithm which was responsible for choosing his loved one to die?, does the programmer bear any guilt, etc)

[JimL]

What does "shall not infringe" mean to you Jim?

The first point was the necessity of a well regulated militia, regulated being the key word. We no longer have militias, we have well regulated standing armies. And two, no one is infringing upon your right to bear arms since, like many people, i'm sure you legally possess them now. But the right is not unlimited as your favorite conservative defender of gun rights, Antonin Scalia, explained.

[Sparko]

The first point was the necessity of a well regulated militia, regulated being the key word. We no longer have militias, we have well regulated standing armies. And two, no one is infringing upon your right to bear arms since, like many people, i'm sure you legally possess them now. But the right is not unlimited as your favorite conservative defender of gun rights, Antonin Scalia, explained.

Speaking of militias....

It begins: Virginia forms active militia to protect sheriffs, citizens from unconstitutional laws

Virginia's governor has gone off the deep end and the citizens are fighting back. Literally.

When you try to make teaching self-defense illegal, you have gone too far.

[seer]

When you try to make teaching self-defense illegal, you have gone too far.

This is not going to end well...

[Sparko]

This is not going to end well...

They need to impeach the governor before he starts a state-wide civil war. If 76 out of 95 counties are fighting this new law, then they need to repeal it. This is another one of those "one large population center" is controlling the entire state.

[lilpixieofterror]

The first point was the necessity of a well regulated militia, regulated being the key word. We no longer have militias, we have well regulated standing armies. And two, no one is infringing upon your right to bear arms since, like many people, i'm sure you legally possess them now. But the right is not unlimited as your favorite conservative defender of gun rights, Antonin Scalia, explained.

Jimmy, you might want to read The Federalist Papers and understand what that met, in the late 18th century.

[Sparko]

Jimmy, you might want to read The Federalist Papers and understand what that met, in the late 18th century.

We have been over this with JimL before. Well regulated means well trained and disciplined, not controlled. And it is just given as a reason not a condition of our right to bear arms. The right to bear arms is assumed as unalienable and the amendment just stops the government from infringing on it. It doesn't confer the right to carry a gun, it merely stops the government from trying to interfere with it.

[JimL]

We have been over this with JimL before. Well regulated means well trained and disciplined, not controlled. And it is just given as a reason not a condition of our right to bear arms. The right to bear arms is assumed as unalienable and the amendment just stops the government from infringing on it. It doesn't confer the right to carry a gun, it merely stops the government from trying to interfere with it.

Not unlimited, Sparko. See that Constitutional scholar Antonin Scalia.

[Sparko]

Not unlimited, Sparko. See that Constitutional scholar Antonin Scalia.

Just because a Judge says it is limited doesn't make it so. The wording is clear, the Government (read SCOTUS too) cannot infringe on the right to bear arms. If they want to change that, they need to change the constitution.

[Sparko]

The last time the National Guard was used to seize weapons, 72 were killed and more than 200 injured.https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...n-200-injured/

[Sparko]

Looks like the Virginia Dems are backing down in the face of their own citizens taking up arms to stop them...

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Virginia Dems Cave on Confiscation as 2A Sanctuaries Expandhttps://freebeacon.com/issues/virgin...uaries-expand/

[seer]

"In this case, the governor's assault weapons ban will include a grandfather clause for individuals who already own assault weapons, with the requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period," Northam spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky told the Virginia Mercury.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/virgin...uaries-expand/

I expect a run on such rifles in the next couple of weeks!

[Mountain Man]

"In this case, the governor's assault weapons ban will include a grandfather clause for individuals who already own assault weapons, with the requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period," Northam spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky told the Virginia Mercury.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/virgin...uaries-expand/

And, of course, people are going rush to the nearest government agency to register their "assault weapons", right?

I suspect civil disobedience will be the norm here.

[Sparko]

"In this case, the governor's assault weapons ban will include a grandfather clause for individuals who already own assault weapons, with the requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period," Northam spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky told the Virginia Mercury.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/virgin...uaries-expand/

And, of course, people are going rush to the nearest government agency to register their "assault weapons", right?

I suspect civil disobedience will be the norm here.