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  • #46
    Trump is an evil person pix. He has committed adultery numerous times and is not the slightest bit remorseful. He just pays to shut them up. He publicly mocks the appearance of the wives of his political opponents. He rallies his goons ... err 'supporters' at rallies against the press, or against whoever has gotten on his nerves the week of whatever rally he is holding. He is on a warpath with the poor and destitute on our borders - he is not merely content to tighten our borders, he has created a situation where people are being held without adequate medical care, where parents are separated from children, sometimes permanently. And He has been engaging in shadow diplomacy with Ukraine for personal gain, improperly holding aid allocated by congress and endangering their security and ours in a strong arm attempt. And he is about to be impeached for it.

    You mockery of my being offended by those things is wrong Pix. And you should stop for the sake of your own conscience and spiritual well being.
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • #47
      Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      Trump is an evil person pix. He has committed adultery numerous times and is not the slightest bit remorseful. He just pays to shut them up. He publicly mocks the appearance of the wives of his political opponents. He rallies his goons ... err 'supporters' at rallies against the press, or against whoever has gotten on his nerves the week of whatever rally he is holding. He is on a warpath with the poor and destitute on our borders - he is not merely content to tighten our borders, he has created a situation where people are being held without adequate medical care, where parents are separated from children, sometimes permanently. And He has been engaging in shadow diplomacy with Ukraine for personal gain, improperly holding aid allocated by congress and endangering their security and ours in a strong arm attempt. And he is about to be impeached for it.

      You mockery of my being offended by those things is wrong Pix. And you should stop for the sake of your own conscience and spiritual well being.
      Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 11-05-2019, 08:21 AM.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • #48
        For that matter, the Apostle Paul prior to his conversion actively hunted down and murdered Christians.

        I think ox is conflicted. He despises Trump because of politics but is also aware of Jesus' command to love one another, so ox's response is to convince himself that Trump is irredeemably evil so that in his mind his hatred of Trump becomes justified. To list off a person's sins and then declare that person evil and deserving of condemnation because of it is to condemn ourselves. As the master told wicked servant, "By your own words will you be condemned!"
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          For that matter, the Apostle Paul prior to his conversion actively hunted down and murdered Christians.

          I think ox is conflicted. He despises Trump because of politics but is also aware of Jesus' command to love one another, so ox's response is to convince himself that Trump is irredeemably evil so that in his mind his hatred of Trump becomes justified. To list off a person's sins and then declare that person evil and deserving of condemnation because of it is to condemn ourselves. As the master told wicked servant, "By your own words will you be condemned!"
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • #50
            Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
            Nothing you have presented is on par with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.
            I didn't say it was. You really have just about lost your mind, haven't you ...

            Yes he did. And he lost his son to that event as well, and The husband died. And it is flat out heresy to think that you can excuse a non-repentent person because God forgave David. God can and will forgive Trump - IF HE REPENTS. But he is still obliagted for his sins. And his evil is not excused, especially in terms of its effect on others, until and unless he repents.

            No Pix, it makes him evil. It may be a sort of evil you are willing to tolerate (till it's you being mocked in front of the entire country would be my guess)

            And in all that there is an implicit responsibility to take care of them, and especially not to abuse them.

            No, its a reality, and he's going to be impeached for it.


            You are mocking me because that is who you are and who you have become.

            And you've made up the idea I think Trump is Hitler out of whole cloth. That is just plain a lie that has appeared in your own head. And the only 'hysterics' here are your own.

            Jim
            Last edited by oxmixmudd; 11-05-2019, 12:48 PM.
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              For that matter, the Apostle Paul prior to his conversion actively hunted down and murdered Christians.
              And it was wrong, and many died, and Paul regretted and hated that he had done that. Trump is not Paul, and Trump is still acting out his evil. And even if a person repents and changes, they are still responsible to the people they have hurt unless those people release him from his obligation.

              I think ox is conflicted. He despises Trump because of politics but is also aware of Jesus' command to love one another, so ox's response is to convince himself that Trump is irredeemably evil so that in his mind his hatred of Trump becomes justified. To list off a person's sins and then declare that person evil and deserving of condemnation because of it is to condemn ourselves. As the master told wicked servant, "By your own words will you be condemned!"
              That simply isn't true, and you know it. Wow.
              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • #52
                Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                He is on a warpath with the poor and destitute on our borders - he is not merely content to tighten our borders, he has created a situation where people are being held without adequate medical care, where parents are separated from children, sometimes permanently.
                Oxmix it was not Trump who created the situation at the border it was those that said come on break in don't bother knocking on the door we will let you stay even if you are criminals. stop blaming Trump for those that refuse to protect our border and tell the people it is ok to BREAK THE LAW. and I can't believe you just condoned child trafficking, the children that are taken away permanently from the adults that bring them in are not being taken from their parents but from child traffickers.

                The policies you are decrying here were STARTED IN OBAMA'S ADMINSTRATION not Trumps. ICE under Trump has been giving medical attentions as much as they can with the money Congress will allow since Congress holds the purse strings. last I checked hte house has a Democrat Majority and the Senate is not free from Democrat filibusters. so if you are going to point fingers point it in the right direction. stop falsely accusing someone of what others have done.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  That simply isn't true, and you know it.
                  I have no reason to believe I'm wrong.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                    I didn't say it was. You really have just about lost your mind, haven't you ...
                    Yes he did. And he lost his son to that event as well, and The husband died. And it is flat out heresy to think that you can excuse a non-repentent person because God forgave David. God can and will forgive Trump - IF HE REPENTS. But he is still obliagted for his sins. And his evil is not excused, especially in terms of its effect on others, until and unless he repents.
                    No Pix, it makes him evil. It may be a sort of evil you are willing to tolerate (till it's you being mocked in front of the entire country would be my guess)
                    And in all that there is an implicit responsibility to take care of them, and especially not to abuse them.
                    No, its a reality, and he's going to be impeached for it.
                    And likely acquitted, in the Senate, for this mockery of Justice.

                    You are mocking me because that is who you are and who you have become.
                    And you've made up the idea I think Trump is Hitler out of whole cloth. That is just plain a lie that has appeared in your own head. And the only 'hysterics' here are your own.
                    Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 11-05-2019, 02:23 PM.
                    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                    • #55
                      Pfft. He just called the prophet Elijah evil (1 Kings 18:27).
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                      • #56
                        I'm trying to figure out this notion of "shadow diplomacy" or "back channel diplomacy". Isn't that just another name for good old fashioned diplomacy?
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                          Oxmix it was not Trump who created the situation at the border it was those that said come on break in don't bother knocking on the door we will let you stay even if you are criminals. stop blaming Trump for those that refuse to protect our border and tell the people it is ok to BREAK THE LAW. and I can't believe you just condoned child trafficking, the children that are taken away permanently from the adults that bring them in are not being taken from their parents but from child traffickers.

                          The policies you are decrying here were STARTED IN OBAMA'S ADMINSTRATION not Trumps. ICE under Trump has been giving medical attentions as much as they can with the money Congress will allow since Congress holds the purse strings. last I checked hte house has a Democrat Majority and the Senate is not free from Democrat filibusters. so if you are going to point fingers point it in the right direction. stop falsely accusing someone of what others have done.
                          Sometimes the inability to reunite can be explained by trafficking. But others, more than there should be, is the lack of a plan that results in the connections between people simply being lost.

                          And no, I am not condoning trafficking. And you know I am not.
                          Last edited by oxmixmudd; 11-05-2019, 03:29 PM.
                          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            I'm trying to figure out this notion of "shadow diplomacy" or "back channel diplomacy". Isn't that just another name for good old fashioned diplomacy?
                            Always going for the "it's not that bad" after the "It didn't happen" falls through ... But yeah its that bad. Testimony released today from Sondland makes that quite clear.
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • #59
                              God bless you pix.
                              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                Pfft. He just called the prophet Elijah evil (1 Kings 18:27).
                                your ability to twist the scriptures to your own ends is growing. So mockery of the wicked is not the same as the mockery of the innocent. Not sure the specific mockery you wish to apply that scripture to, but my comments about Trump's mockery applies to the public humiliation of the wife of a political opponent, and no, that is not the same as Elijah mocking false prophets, and yes, what Trump did was evil.
                                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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