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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostThis thread features a notable dearth of condemnation of these attempts to out a whistleblower who was already receiving death threats, so let's fix that.
I condemn this attempt to out a whistleblower who was already subject to death threats.
People of good conscience needn't hang back on joining me.
I'll add that it is near certain that the whistleblower will eventually be named, and that the name cited in the o/p has not been confirmed (but is likely correct).
Now, on with the taunting ...
Just today, I found seer citing pewforum.org authoritatively, a source I've described as the premiere source on religious belief in America.
So there,
As if you didn't choose to pick Jesus' standard.
Pshh.
Or better, the standard that's been reported as coming from Jesus, by folks who don't seem otherwise more than middlin' honest in their reporting. Not that that matters if what they're reporting checks out.
A lot of the stuff reported from Jesus makes good sense, without needing to weigh it down with petty fallacies, like arguments from authority. "Love one another" is good advice for folks looking to get things done cooperatively.
Other stuff needs to be re-interpreted to get past the head-scratching.
A "brood of vipers" isn't evil, just dangerous, and even then only if mishandled, and its emphasis in Matthew likely tells us more about Matthew's penchant for hyperbole and fear of snakes than anything of actual import other than the possible lesson that even a god can have a bad day. Hardly news, or necessary though, as Leda'd likely agree.
There are things that one tradition does much better than another, though. No one does inner peace and tranquility better than the four noble truths of Buddhism. No one does healing better than the repentance and forgiveness of the Christians. No one does unity of humanity better than the Brahman of the Hindus.
Don't worry about me, I'll just sit here in the dark.[ATTACH=CONFIG]40629[/ATTACH]
Come over to the dark side. We've got cookies.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]40628[/ATTACH]My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostThis thread features a notable dearth of condemnation of these attempts to out a whistleblower who was already receiving death threats, so let's fix that.
I condemn this attempt to out a whistleblower who was already subject to death threats.
And I don't even need cookies to say it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostAs if you didn't choose to pick Jesus' standard.
The way, the truth and the life.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm sure you knew better.
Not to mention unexcelled wit, charm, and humility.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
A lot of the stuff reported from Jesus makes good sense, without needing to weigh it down with petty fallacies, like arguments from authority. "Love one another" is good advice for folks looking to get things done cooperatively.
Other stuff needs to be re-interpreted to get past the head-scratching.
A "brood of vipers" isn't evil, just dangerous, and even then only if mishandled, and its emphasis in Matthew likely tells us more about Matthew's penchant for hyperbole and fear of snakes than anything of actual import other than the possible lesson that even a god can have a bad day. Hardly news, or necessary though, as Leda'd likely agree.
IVP Commentary on Matthew 3 v 7
Originally posted by Matthew 3 v 7But seeing many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said to them, O generation of vipers, who has warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Second, John's hearers were not all good descendants of their ancestors anyway. "Viper" was certainly an insult, and brood of vipers (offspring of vipers) carries the insult further. In the ancient Mediterranean many people thought of vipers as mother killers. In the fifth century B.C. Herodotus declared that newborn Arabian vipers chewed their way out of their mothers' wombs, killing their mothers in the process. Herodotus believed that they did so to avenge their fathers, who were slain by the mothers during procreation (Herod. Hist. 3.109). Later writers applied his words to serpents everywhere (Aelian On Animals 1.24; Pliny N.H. 10.170; Plut. Divine Vengeance 32, Mor. 567F). Calling John's hearers vipers would have been an insult, but calling them a brood of vipers accused them of killing their own mothers, indicating the utmost moral depravity. That Matthew applies this phrase to religious leaders may be unfortunately significant....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post1) It is not a transcript- which is itself a problem. It should be a word for word transcript. But Trump doesnt want that. And we all know why.
2) It is itself damning enough that people aware of its implications but who wanted to protect Trump had it stashed on a server for classified or highly sensitive data
3) key elements specific to the content of Trumps 'favor' were purposefully omitted as we have been informed by eyewitness testimony. These elements show even more clearly the intent to condition the aid in an investigation of biden, not general corruption.
4)there is significant evidence outside the call itself which shows the investigation of the bidens was a precondition to the aid and to critical shows of support for ukraine and its new president by our president.
These are the simple facts rogue. And they show illegal quid pro quo for personal gain by Trump
Morrison made it clear that nothing illegal was said during the call. And he made it clear that the Ukrainians had no idea that there was any kind of hold placed on shipments of arms[1]. And in spite of WaPo's truly bizarre claims that he testified that "Trump Appeared to Seek Quid Pro Quo" he actually shot that down (see previous sentence) as well as many other claims especially those made by Taylor.
1. hard to strong-arm someone who is blissfully unaware that leverage is being applied and given that they didn't do what the TDS crowd claims that Trump demanded provides even more corroboration that the supposed shakedown only exists in the fevered imagination of those who insist it just must have happened.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostNot too far off, in spirit, anyway.
And thanks, but nah ... pure, plumb misremembered ... probably mangled it with John 1:1, 8:12, inter alia. I'm going to own it. That being an admission of error made so much easier by remembering I'll always have perfect hair.
Not to mention unexcelled wit, charm, and humility.
Which is it? Comma before the last 'and' or not?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostThis thread features a notable dearth of condemnation of these attempts to out a whistleblower who was already receiving death threats, so let's fix that.
I condemn this attempt to out a whistleblower who was already subject to death threats.
People of good conscience needn't hang back on joining me.
I'll add that it is near certain that the whistleblower will eventually be named, and that the name cited in the o/p has not been confirmed (but is likely correct).
Now, on with the taunting ...
Just today, I found seer citing pewforum.org authoritatively, a source I've described as the premiere source on religious belief in America.
So there,
As if you didn't choose to pick Jesus' standard.
Pshh.
Or better, the standard that's been reported as coming from Jesus, by folks who don't seem otherwise more than middlin' honest in their reporting. Not that that matters if what they're reporting checks out.
A lot of the stuff reported from Jesus makes good sense, without needing to weigh it down with petty fallacies, like arguments from authority. "Love one another" is good advice for folks looking to get things done cooperatively.
Other stuff needs to be re-interpreted to get past the head-scratching.
A "brood of vipers" isn't evil, just dangerous, and even then only if mishandled, and its emphasis in Matthew likely tells us more about Matthew's penchant for hyperbole and fear of snakes than anything of actual import other than the possible lesson that even a god can have a bad day. Hardly news, or necessary though, as Leda'd likely agree.
There are things that one tradition does much better than another, though. No one does inner peace and tranquility better than the four noble truths of Buddhism. No one does healing better than the repentance and forgiveness of the Christians. No one does unity of humanity better than the Brahman of the Hindus.
Don't worry about me, I'll just sit here in the dark.[ATTACH=CONFIG]40629[/ATTACH]
Come over to the dark side. We've got cookies.
Second, your continued attempts at bribing folks with cookies is why I selected this smiley for you: Lao.gifThe Devil's baker
And third, bacon.
Does there really need to be anything more after #3?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWe also just had testimony that what you said above is a load of hogswallop. And that from one of the carefully cherry-picked witnesses called by Schiff and his cronies (since he has forbidden the Republicans from calling any witnesses).
Morrison made it clear that nothing illegal was said during the call. And he made it clear that the Ukrainians had no idea that there was any kind of hold placed on shipments of arms[1]. And in spite of WaPo's truly bizarre claims that he testified that "Trump Appeared to Seek Quid Pro Quo" he actually shot that down (see previous sentence) as well as many other claims especially those made by Taylor.
1. hard to strong-arm someone who is blissfully unaware that leverage is being applied and given that they didn't do what the TDS crowd claims that Trump demanded provides even more corroboration that the supposed shakedown only exists in the fevered imagination of those who insist it just must have happened.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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