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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostGod is willing, able and eager to move with the times. He is not the book.
However, you may go ahead and make Him in your own image if you wish. To your detriment.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostGod is willing, able and eager to move with the times. He is not the book.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostYou horribly misunderstand the God of the scriptures. He who has said of Himself, "I AM the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow". He is unchanging, unchangeable, and perfectly holy.
However, you may go ahead and make Him in your own image if you wish. To your detriment.Last edited by firstfloor; 10-11-2019, 06:52 PM.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostWhy do you think that God is defined by a worldly book? I know that the book makes big claims about itself, but it is possible to go beyond the book. Think of a Christian as someone who is afraid to let go of apron strings. That might explain your predicament.
You can think of a Christian any way you want to. I will define God by His word where He has defined Himself. His word is my final authority, and the world can call it a "predicament" or "apron strings" or anything else it likes, but that is pure unbelief and it will send you to hell.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOur Church has been fully prepared for the last year to operate tax exempt excepted.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostWhy do you think that God is defined by a worldly book? I know that the book makes big claims about itself, but it is possible to go beyond the book. Think of a Christian as someone who is afraid to let go of apron strings. That might explain your predicament.
Let's see, I've been happily married to a wonderful woman for over 40 years, I have two wonderful daughters, three super grandkids, I have a job where I get great joy every day from serving and helping others, I am surrounded by people who love me....
Help, I really need extricated!!!!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThis is exactly why we are headed for a Civil War...
Originally posted by Teallaura View PostWho needs the Constitution as long as leftist fascists get their way, huh?
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think it's only a matter of time before Churches lose their tax-exempt status"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostYou can think of a Christian any way you want to. I will define God by His word where He has defined Himself. His word is my final authority, and the world can call it a "predicament" or "apron strings" or anything else it likes, but that is pure unbelief and it will send you to hell.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHmmmmm...... Predicament: A situation, especially an unpleasant, troublesome, or trying one, from which extrication is difficult.
Let's see, I've been happily married to a wonderful woman for over 40 years, I have two wonderful daughters, three super grandkids, I have a job where I get great joy every day from serving and helping others, I am surrounded by people who love me....
Help, I really need extricated!!!!
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt hasn't happened in New Zealand yet, and we're a majority-non-religious country. So it's probably highly unlikely to happen in the US in the foreseeable future.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostYou and me are both blessed, CP. The fact that you lift up others around you is commendable.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThat God is a mechanical God; all personhood has been stripped away and you simply have it repeat things on your command by opening the pages of the book. It was written about a world that has disappeared and your effort to map it onto this world is futile. There is a character in the book, but I question whether that character is the present God. Your God is bound, mine is free and more perfect than yours.
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post....
I'm pretty sure no part of the constitution requires the secular government to subsidize religious organisations, which is what a tax-exempt status effectively is. In fact, insofar as it means you are essentially taking money from other taypayers and putting it toward your own particular religious organisation which they may well object to, I am surprised it hasn't already been struck down as unconstitutional.
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And 'subsidy' doesn't mean 'no taxation'."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI've been thinking for quite a while -- like, decades -- that one of the worst things churches ever did was accept tax-exempt status. Whatever the original intent, it has long since turned into a backdoor way to nullify the First Amendment.
The problem isn't the status - it's the government encroachment."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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