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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHow she votes is NOT her opinion and hers alone. She is a REPRESENTATIVE of the people and should do her job. Being pressured to vote a certain way is what she was elected to do.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThere was no way the Democrats were not going to impeach. That's exactly what I've been saying all along --- this whole sham is entirely political.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, everything that Schiff and Nadler did was coordinated with Moscow Nancy --- and this all started 2 years BEFORE the impeachment hearings.
It was all rigged ahead of time - no chance that there would NOT be an impeachment - it was a sham from start to finish. The ONLY thing bipartisan about it was two democrats joining the Republicans in recognizing this for the kangaroo court it was.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhat are you talking about? They have the transcripts from the secret hearings (or at least the portions Shifty Schiff has seen fit to release), they know what was testified to publicly, they've read the articles of impeachment. It's not like the Senate is going into this blind. The entire Democrat case is a matter of public record, and the Senate knows as well as you and I that there is no substance to it. An immediate vote to acquit is the only just thing to do.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe republicans felt the same way after articles were filed, prior to the Senate trial against Nixon. How'd that turn out?
The impeachment inquiry was bipartisan - and Nixon was incredibly popular before the scandal broke.
Nixon resigned after the release of evidence that conclusively proved his guilt. FYI: Nixon released the evidence himself under court order."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYou're getting your history mixed up. There was no floor vote on the articles of impeachment against Nixon - hence, no impeachment. Since there was no impeachment, there was no Senate trial.
The impeachment inquiry was bipartisan - and Nixon was incredibly popular before the scandal broke.
Nixon resigned after the release of evidence that conclusively proved his guilt. FYI: Nixon released the evidence himself under court order.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYou're getting your history mixed up. There was no floor vote on the articles of impeachment against Nixon - hence, no impeachment. Since there was no impeachment, there was no Senate trial.
The impeachment inquiry was bipartisan - and Nixon was incredibly popular before the scandal broke.
Nixon resigned after the release of evidence that conclusively proved his guilt. FYI: Nixon released the evidence himself under court order.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat's not true, Nancy Pelosi argued against impeachment right up until the Ukraine extortion scheme became known.
Only then did she realize she no longer had a choice. What you've been saying all along has been wrong, and no it is not entirely political. The only reason you say it's entirely political is because you have a biased (red team) perspective that you can't overcome regardless of the facts.
- It is ONLY the Democrats on these House committees voting FOR impeachment.
- The ONLY bi-partisanship is two DEMOCRATS crossing the isle to vote with REPUBLICANS.
- The Democrats are constantly looking at POLLING and checking with FOCUS GROUPS to see how to sell this steaming pile of horsie poo.
- The DEMOCRAT controlled House will vote to impeach, but they'll probably lose another couple Democrats - possibly up to 10 - who will side with Republicans.
- Again - the ONLY bipartisanship is Democrats not going along with the entirely political sham impeachment circus.
- The REPUBLICAN controlled Senate will NEVER remove Trump, particularly with newer polling showing that Americans are NOT supporting this sham impeachment circus.
- Your colleagues were all excited about a poll that showed that 50% of Americans supported impeachment and removal, but you have to totally ignore the fact that that support has collapsed, and is trending DOWN, and you still claim that 46.5% is "half".
- The 31 Democrats "at risk" in their home districts are having a hard time deciding how to vote because of their POLITICAL risk.
- There is NOTHING about this impeachment that is NOT political.
- Schiff had to OUTRIGHT LIE about the transcript to get the ball rolling
- Nadler had strongly opposed Clinton's impeachment because it HAD to be WIDELY bipartisan both in the political realm and in the House and Senate - and there had to be OVERWHELMING evidence of actual crimes
- Pelosi had made similar speeches
- The Democrats have to keep lying about there being "overwhelming evidence" in order to try not to look like the lying hypocrites they are
- Schiff has been claiming he has a "mountain of evidence" that he's holding back - why can't the shifty little liar produce it?
I could go on and on. Which of the above facts are in error?
It's POLITICAL, Jim, regardless of the talking points in your bubble pretending it's not.Last edited by Cow Poke; 12-14-2019, 08:33 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd you can't figure out what the difference is?
CP, you're just parroting the talking points.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou need to get new talking points, Jim. The Democrats were in "let's impeach Trump" mode from Day 1 of Trump's presidency, and Pelosi has been all over the map on this.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOkay nit picker. The judiciary voted to send articles to the House for a vote.
This bipartisan argument is nonsense. Just because you get a couple of reps to crossover is literally meaningless.
I know. And that evidence came out after articles were voted on in the judiciary and sent to the House. That's where we are now and republicans were just as confident of acquittal at this point in the Nixon impeachment as republicans are now, until all of a sudden......"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSome actually started the day after he was elected and wouldn't be sworn in for nearly two months.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNot quite. Nixon resigned when he lost the support of his most loyal defenders in Congress. Republican Congressional leaders met with and told Nixon that both his impeachment and his conviction were certainties.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBecause there was an actual undeniable verifiable inexcusable documented crime.
As I've said before, for all the legal weight the articles of impeachment have, they may as well have charged the President with "abuse of Congress" and "obstruction of power".Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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