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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostNope, i don't believe it's a forgone conclusion, there are one or two principled republicans in the Senate and a few with tough upcoming elections who can't just look the other way when it comes time to vote on allowing witnesses and documentary evidence at trial since that is what some 70% of the people want.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhat are you talking about? The Democrats held open hearings for weeks. They could have argued in court to prove legal sufficiency to compel those gagged by executive privilege to testify, but they quickly lost heart for the fight and rushed the impeachment articles to a vote because they simply didn't have time to wait. They had to get them to the Senate as quickly as possible!
Or not...
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If the Democrats don't have a strong case to present to the Senate then they only have themselves to blame.
And what I'm saying is that the things you are calling unfair in the House impeachment investigations were necessary to limit the capacity of the republicans to conspire to keep the President's deeds from being exposed. They still were able to in complicity act on the presidents behalf to keep the people with full and first hand knowledge, those that likely hold the smoking gun as it were, from testifying. And they are still at it - refusing to allow Bolton to tell what he knows.
We know what the president did, and we know that it is worthy of impeachment. But the senate will not allow an actual trial to take place, and they believe they can talk their way out of the evidence so far, but they will not allow the evidence they can't talk their way out of (like the president telling someone he was trying to get dirt on Biden from Ukraine) to be heard. Those words would only have been spoken, if they were ever spoken, to people like Bolton or Giuliani.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think it's more a case that Democrats see their party imploding and are desperately looking for someone to blame. Pelosi is proving to be a convenient target because she seems to have lost control of the House, though I'm not certain the blame is entirely on her.
I'm always still in trouble again
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"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostRarely are such collapses "entirely" the blame of one person.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostPelosi is doing a decent job of riding the avalanche, IMO; I'm not sure anyone else could be doing any better.
BTW I'm hearing talk that Schiff is going to the impeachment manager for the Dems. Thrilled. Will the Republicans be able to appoint someone of similar caliber?
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWe know what the president did, and we know that it is worthy of impeachment. But the senate will not allow an actual trial to take plac...
Do you think they can do it?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostBTW I'm hearing talk that Schiff is going to the impeachment manager for the Dems. Thrilled. Will the Republicans be able to appoint someone of similar caliber?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostIf you can show me documentation that the Democrats wouldn't let Republicans call relevant witnesses (e.g. not Hunter Biden) I'll join you in condemning them. Same for preventing them from interviewing relevant witnesses.
I want to follow the truth wherever it leads.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostPerhaps it's me, but I can't make sense out of what your saying here. Any examples?
Originally posted by JimL View PostPelosi is creating time for thinking Americans to recognise that Moscow Mitch and the republican Senate are working with the President in order to cover-up his crimes with a sham trial. In the mean time more and more evidence is emerging which the Senate will have to deal with one way or the other.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
BTW I'm hearing talk that Schiff is going to the impeachment manager for the Dems. Thrilled. Will the Republicans be able to appoint someone of similar caliber?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostLOL - I love how you ask for evidence but then disqualify any that you don't like. I am not going to bother with proving anything to you at this point. Go google it yourself.
Don't write checks you can't cash, Jesus is watching.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostWhen have I disqualified evidence just because I didn't like it?
Don't write checks you can't cash, Jesus is watching.
"If you can show me documentation that the Democrats wouldn't let Republicans call relevant witnesses (e.g. not Hunter Biden)"
And you are doing that insufferable smug thing again. Stop it.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostRight in your post
"If you can show me documentation that the Democrats wouldn't let Republicans call relevant witnesses (e.g. not Hunter Biden)"
And you are doing that insufferable smug thing again. Stop it.
If so I will go look it up.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWait I might have misread your post upon re-reading it, I intitiallyt read it as "provide evidence except such thing as Hunter Biden"
If so I will go look it up.
https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/adam-s...ent-witnesses/
I also recall that everytime a Republican was trying to question a witness (like the law professors) the democrats like Schiff kept interrupting them and playing such games.
I also remember that Nunes provided a list of witnesses such as Hunter Biden to Schiff and they were denied.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1XJ0FK
I don't recall ANY republican witnesses being allowed other than the one law professor. Do you? If so, let me know who they were.
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