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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    A sitting president can't be indicted, Lilpix. His trial takes place in Congress through the impeachment process.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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    • Yep, it's called extortion at the risk of U.S. national security.

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      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
        Yep, it's called extortion at the risk of U.S. national security.
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • He asked Zelinsky for a favor. A favor, I tell you! What other proof do you need? Trump all but declared open war on an ally with that word! Wake up, people!
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            You left out this part, CP. "the evidence is in the presidents actions and in the transcript itself." You guys can clamor on about it coming second hand all you want, how ever the evidence came to light, it came to light.

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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              So despite the fact that the lawyers have said on the record that this is a complete misinterpretation of the content of their letter, you're moving full speed ahead with your "truth over facts" narrative.

              This is why it's futile to discuss anything Trump related with you.

              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                He asked Zelinsky for a favor. A favor, I tell you! What other proof do you need? Trump all but declared open war on an ally with that word! Wake up, people!
                Mockery is easy MM. Understanding a tad more difficult.

                What 'favor' did he ask for? He asked for help taking down biden in the next US election - i.e. he requested help from a foreign nation in winning the 2020 presidential election.

                When did he ask it? Right after Zelenski discussed his need and desire for missiles that would help prevent Russian aggression.

                Again you play the 'naivete' game. The request itself is illegal and immoral, a violation of Trumps oath of office to protect the constitution and sovereignty of the US. The juxtaposition of the request up against a need from Zelenski makes it a 'quid pro quo'. Nothing explicit needs to be said. When you add in the Trump directed DELAY in delivering the funding and the fact that Zelenski did not act on Trump's request and it's a slam dunk. That is what it was, and anyone older than 12 can see if for what it is. Your denials are just naked distortions of fact anyone with half a brain and one functioning eye can see through.


                Jim
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  You left out this part, CP.
                  It was negated by your gross irony.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                    is under federal protection, because he or she fears for their safety.because he fears for his safety because he is not under federal protection at all.
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • Originally posted by seer View Post
                      is under federal protection, because he or she fears for their safety.because he fears for his safety because he is not under federal protection at all.


                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by seer View Post
                        is under federal protection, because he or she fears for their safety.because he fears for his safety because he is not under federal protection at all.
                        Yep. That may well be the case. And exactly how does that nullify the fact that Trumps words and actions have endangered the safety of the whistleblower and that this person's lawyers have requested that protection be given?

                        How exactly does that change the nature of the problem as I have outlined it in this thread?


                        Jim
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                          Yep. That may well be the case. And exactly how does that nullify the fact that Trumps words and actions have endangered the safety of the whistleblower and that this person's lawyers have requested that protection be given?

                          How exactly does that change the nature of the problem as I have outlined it in this thread?


                          Jim
                          Jim, lawyers are given to theatrics - they love trying cases in the court of public opinion.

                          A) I can't find any evidence that the 'whistleblower' actually IS under "federal protection"
                          2) This is what you would expect the lawyers to say to attempt to bolster their accusations against Trump.

                          You keep asking if others are naive.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            What 'favor' did he ask for? He asked for help taking down biden in the next US election...
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by seer View Post
                              is under federal protection, because he or she fears for their safety.because he fears for his safety because he is not under federal protection at all.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                                Yep. That may well be the case. And exactly how does that nullify the fact that Trumps words and actions have endangered the safety of the whistleblower and that this person's lawyers have requested that protection be given?

                                How exactly does that change the nature of the problem as I have outlined it in this thread?


                                Jim
                                Jim, feeling unsafe doesn't mean you are unsafe. I mean really do you think Trump put a contract on him? And the whistleblower does need to come forward - Trump has every right to face his accuser...
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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