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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHush. I'm giving JimL the opportunity to think things through.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHope springs eternal.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHope springs eternal.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIn cases like this it is more likely that a guard was being blackmailed rather than bribed.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt doesn't even have to be blackmail or bribery. It could be that the superiors knew the conditions were extremely lax (due to whatever reasons -- reports are saying the staff was overworked) and took advantage of that situation. Though I do find it strange the guards have sought legal protection.
If true they're gonna need a lawyer.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Serious question: The only jail I've ever been to was the 1600s jail on display in Williamsburg, VA. So I have no idea how prisons work. There were apparently no cameras on Epstein's cell, but is there any conceivable way somebody could have made their way to the housing area without being detected by some camera?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSerious question: The only jail I've ever been to was the 1600s jail on display in Williamsburg, VA. So I have no idea how prisons work. There were apparently no cameras on Epstein's cell, but is there any conceivable way somebody could have made their way to the housing area without being detected by some camera?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Well, well. So he MAY have committed suicide through staff misconduct.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostWell, well. So he MAY have committed suicide through staff misconduct.
I do know that about 5 years ago, our county jail had a MAJOR shakeup because of lax protocols and extremely bad practices, and they have managed to turn that around to be awarded "best practices" for jail management. They had to bring in a "jail captain" whose singular purpose is the smooth and efficient running of the jail according to the Texas Commission of Jail Standards.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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This was interesting...
Epstein frequently made his employees and contractors from the construction workers who built his island mansion to his caretaker in Palm Beach sign nondisclosure agreements forbidding them to discuss any activity they saw on his property. But in an interview, Miami Herald reporter Julie K. Brown stated that these employees are no longer held to secrecy upon his death. In June, she also noted that NDAs signed by victims who had previously settled with Epstein prohibited them from discussing the financial details of their award, not the details of the alleged abuse. Attorney David Boies told the Washington Post in June that he was representing two alleged victims who had signed NDAs.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...ins-death.html
It's looking more and more to me that someone on top of the federal food chain with a lot of authority just had had enough and concluded this was the only option for justice moving forward. I do believe there are still a remnant of good people in the criminal justice system. That's my conspiratorial hypothesis (my what if) and I'm sticking to it unless I see evidence to the contrary.
Apparently, as far as the criminal case, they'll now be going after Epstein's co-conspirators such as the group of women he used to recruit young girls, particularly his head recruiter Ghislaine Maxwell. All I got to say is, madame Maxwell better hire some serious personal security
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Originally posted by seanD View Post...It's looking more and more to me that someone on top of the federal food chain with a lot of authority just had had enough and concluded this was the only option for justice moving forward...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJust to be clear - you're thinking that somebody "on top of the federal food chain" arranged to have him killed?
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Originally posted by seanD View PostOr arranged it so he could kill himself, maybe even persuaded him to do it. If it is in fact a conspiracy, yes. I'm just saying that that sounds more plausible to me purely as a conspiracy hypothesis than believing someone offed him for more nefarious reasons -- presumably to shut him up in order to cover crimes of others associated with him, which is the predominant belief. Though I'm not ruling that out entirely either. I seriously doubt the Clintons had the means to get to Epstein than others in a much better position of authority did. They're evil, but they're not omnipotent. So if the latter is the case, then that takes us down a very deep and dark rabbit hole I don't think any of us want to go.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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