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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell that's just the lie spread by you anti-democratic fascist types who know that they can't win in a fair election, who spread the lie that thousands of people are voting illegally and so try to put up barriers to stop legal citizens from participating. I know that you all know that to be true and that the courts have shown it to be true, but, you know, you are what you are.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYour posts are smelling faintly of desperation, Jim. You need to dial back a bit on wild-eyed accusations like this beauty.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhich part do you see as wild eyed and desperate, the fact that republican/conservatives know that they can't win without, in their own desperation, acting to undermine the democratic process itself, or the part that in doing so they show their true anti-democratic mindset. The desperation is yours, is conservatives, and you all know it, and so you are willing to undermine democracy itself, to elect an immoral lying demigogue who preaches anti-democratic propaganda, deep state, lying press, who defies the law and the Constitution and fills the swamp with crooked lobbyist and sycophants. There's nothing wild eyed about it, you're either blind, or complicit.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhich part do you see as wild eyed and desperate, the fact that republican/conservatives know that they can't win without, in their own desperation, acting to undermine the democratic process itself, or the part that in doing so they show their true anti-democratic mindset. The desperation is yours, is conservatives, and you all know it, and so you are willing to undermine democracy itself, to elect an immoral lying demigogue who preaches anti-democratic propaganda, deep state, lying press, who defies the law and the Constitution and fills the swamp with crooked lobbyist and sycophants. There's nothing wild eyed about it, you're either blind, or complicit.
The House committee will finish up in a few months - putting a negative finding awfully danged close to the primaries. They aren't going to miraculously find something anymore than Mueller magically created a case by testifying. It'll just be the same innuendo and accusations - and a third massive deflation of the Democratic party's hopes. Right before the primaries...
It's gotten to the embarrassingly pathetic state. I'll be impressed if they can get decent turnout for the primaries - the general should be higher but it's not likely to help. The Democratic party will get, in all likelihood, a fourth strike - a Trump re-election.
I don't think it'll survive that - not unless the Rational Minority gets control and that seems really unlikely now.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostJim, conservatives aren't the desperate ones here - despite a two year investigation, a Congressional investigation and a media that has made every effort to undermine the current president, the net result is nothing. Republicans were ready to convict Nixon because the evidence really was overwhelming. The Democrats aren't even willing to take the investigation to the House because the evidence doesn't begin to pass muster. Despite all claims to the contrary, there's no real case against Trump - it simply does not exist.
The House committee will finish up in a few months - putting a negative finding awfully danged close to the primaries. They aren't going to miraculously find something anymore than Mueller magically created a case by testifying. It'll just be the same innuendo and accusations - and a third massive deflation of the Democratic party's hopes. Right before the primaries...
It's gotten to the embarrassingly pathetic state. I'll be impressed if they can get decent turnout for the primaries - the general should be higher but it's not likely to help. The Democratic party will get, in all likelihood, a fourth strike - a Trump re-election.
I don't think it'll survive that - not unless the Rational Minority gets control and that seems really unlikely now.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhich part do you see as wild eyed and desperate, the fact that republican/conservatives know that they can't win without, in their own desperation, acting to undermine the democratic process itself, or the part that in doing so they show their true anti-democratic mindset. The desperation is yours, is conservatives, and you all know it, and so you are willing to undermine democracy itself, to elect an immoral lying demigogue who preaches anti-democratic propaganda, deep state, lying press, who defies the law and the Constitution and fills the swamp with crooked lobbyist and sycophants. There's nothing wild eyed about it, you're either blind, or complicit.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostJim, conservatives aren't the desperate ones here - despite a two year investigation, a Congressional investigation and a media that has made every effort to undermine the current president, the net result is nothing.
Republicans were ready to convict Nixon because the evidence really was overwhelming. The Democrats aren't even willing to take the investigation to the House because the evidence doesn't begin to pass muster. Despite all claims to the contrary, there's no real case against Trump - it simply does not exist.
The House committee will finish up in a few months - putting a negative finding awfully danged close to the primaries. They aren't going to miraculously find something anymore than Mueller magically created a case by testifying. It'll just be the same innuendo and accusations - and a third massive deflation of the Democratic party's hopes. Right before the primaries...
It's gotten to the embarrassingly pathetic state. I'll be impressed if they can get decent turnout for the primaries - the general should be higher but it's not likely to help. The Democratic party will get, in all likelihood, a fourth strike - a Trump re-election.
I don't think it'll survive that - not unless the Rational Minority gets control and that seems really unlikely now.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostTea, you fail to recognize that Atty Gen. Barr lied to the american people concerning the Mueller report, which is the very reason that Trump got rid of Sessions and installed Barr in his stead. You also fail to recognize the evidence against Trump and his campaign in the report itself and Muellers intention to have Congress make the determination of a trial since he, whether you care for his opinion or not, was forbid to make that determination according to DOJ rules.
The evidence was overwhelming in the Nixon case even without the release of the tapes, but republicans stood with him until they no longer could because of the tapes. Democrats are going to have to do the same thing here, because the republicans in the Senate, led by Moscow Mitch, will never convict Trump until, because of all the evidence coming out, they no longer have that choice.
There won't be anything miraculous about it, an impeachment inquiry allows Congress to subpoena the evidence that the Trump administration has been ferociously blocking them from getting. I understand that as republicans you all don't want the facts to get out, you no longer call for transparency, after all, you put this corrupt villain in office.
Yes, yes, yes, it's understood that is your fervent hope.
They are all united in this, that Trump is corrupt, that he is most likely to be found guilty of collusion with an adversary, that he is an enemy to democracy, and that he is unfit to be president of the U.S. and leader of the free world.
You can't prove any of that - and after all that's been done to prove it, the rational conclusion is it probably isn't true."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Nadler got a major league smack down from the Federal judge!
Judge shopping is a no-no!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Obviously the Rooskies got to Howell
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