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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEspecially if he can spin it to make Republicans look bad."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI think Jimmy has this idea that without the north winning the Civil War, the south would still have slaves today.
Several of my supervisors/managers over the years were black - one the best manager I ever had. By the end of my career it was getting difficult to tell a white from a black neighborhood even in poor areas (impossible in middle or upper class - always was). Pretty much, you had to look for the swans - assuming the neighborhood was old enough to have them. The kids were no longer telltale - the neighborhoods were organically integrating.
My understanding is that isn't true for the Southwest (*cough* California *cough*) or the North (dunno about the Midwest)."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostDo you know why Lincoln kept making speeches about 'preserving the Union'? And Davis was making similar speeches about 'state's rights'? It's because NEITHER the North nor the South could field ARMIES on 'slavery'. Northern mommies weren't gonna send their lily white little boys to die to free slaves. Southern mommies weren't gonna send their lily white little boys to preserve some plantation owner's right to hold slaves.
That didn't change until the war was in full throttle - at that point both sets of mommies start worrying about what happens when an occupying army arrives - and Little Johnnies from both sides start filling out the ranks so that they don't lose the farm.
Incidentally, standing armies are mostly a modern thing (yeah, yeah, Rome) - all nations had professional soldiers but the rank and file were usually recruited farm boys. Until the mid-20th century, few nations could field an army without them.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostRepublican Rome's armies were farm boys too."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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