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"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostBig news is that Zara is Starlight, also demi is Darth. Cos we all start posting (again) at same time. So demi, also Darth is Starlight too, also Sam.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostImmigration reform? Obama tried that. in 2008! he had 8 years to make it work. And here we are. It didn't work.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou don't have to, it's not like the US literally can't cope with the numbers. But if you choose to accept less total immigrants, that is fine, I think it's totally within a country's right to choose how many are accepted.
A core problem I see with that is that as I understand it there are multiple countries in South America currently where violence is extreme, and a lot of the drug cartels operate cross-border. What is a person supposed to do if its not merely their own country but those around them that are violent, and if those who are targeting them operate in all the countries they're 'allowed' to seek asylum in?
And one of the things Trump is working on is allowing them to have work visas if they apply in country, so they can come to the USA - work on farms or whatever, then go back home. I think that is a good solution too.
But the general idea of working with central american countries to try and create a more organized process in the region about asylum and reduce the number of asylum seekers turning up on the US's doorstep is just common sense. Unfortunately Trump will presumably bungle it like he has everything else in his life and presidency.
Who is the 'them' here? Mexico does not generically offer unlimited amounts of asylum to every single refugee that crosses it. Maybe you're confusing a specific group and specific offer with standard practice?
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Originally posted by Zara View PostGetting a bit emotional there - look at all that bold. Keep it rational now. An entitled woman that lives in one of the richest country in the world - first world splaining it like the world's refugees like life is a Disney film.
For the example I gave, your position is laughable. I suspect that in most instances, it is laughable, given the definition of 'flee' and 'well-founded fear' in that of asylee and refugee. So by defintion, you are wrong. But hey, let's consider an example - you really think the Rohingya should of just stuck around, waited it out? Or people under threat of persecution should just wait and see what happens to them? Your reaching an embassy story, again, bonkers. What are they going to do there, just chill in the lobby for the next year while their application is held up by an administration of dubious intent? Pull the other one it has got bells on.
Asylum seekers, that are being persecuted for and that meet the necessary and sufficient conditions, need to have the possibility of exit to a safe third country where they can apply for asylum. You don't like that. Because they are coming to the US and taking all of your cake?
While you continue to kick down to the poor and downtrodden - you're being robbed blind by the rich. But hey, who cares, right?
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View Postdemi very very surprised, did not expect Starlight start puppet, post even dumber but sure-he's right posts, also even tone-deafer bashing of US of A.
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