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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo then anyone trying to undermine the electoral college would be a traitor, right? And all those people like AOC and Bernie who want to turn our government into a socialist state?
Welcome to the Republican Party, JimL!
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostI've voted for Democrats and Republicans. I vote for who I think will make the best President and Hillary Clinton wasn't it.
I have never seen the type of hatred coming from Democrats that I see today. Hatred so strong that some Republicans are afraid to wear a certain hat or display a certain bumper sticker or go into a restaurant, etc. This type of hatred kills.
If you don't like Trump, then vote him out.
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
But this is one step further. MM knows I don't believe what he claimed I believe, because I have repeatedly denounced such characterizations of my belief. So It's a lie, because he knows that is not what I believe, and because he did not qualify his statement as being his own belief, it is not subject to being excused as merely being his belief. Therefore, he has stated as a fact that which he knows not to be true - [I]the definition of a lie[/B].
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 07-05-2019, 10:13 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou asked what I meant by undermining our democracy, I told you, and you completely ignored it. Like I said, the problem is that he has support in this, and you're it! And btw, that post had nothing to do with Hillary, or the past, it had to do with Trump and what he is doing now. Try to get your brainwashed mind off of Hillary and speak to the facts as they exist now under Trump.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostI've voted for Democrats and Republicans. I vote for who I think will make the best President and Hillary Clinton wasn't it.
I have never seen the type of hatred coming from Democrats that I see today. Hatred so strong that some Republicans are afraid to wear a certain hat or display a certain bumper sticker or go into a restaurant, etc. This type of hatred kills.
If you don't like Trump, then vote him out.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostCall it what you will, CP, but I call undermining our system of government treasonous.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIf I understand your post, I am allowed to take exception once in this thread. This is that time. If a persons says "I believe X", then it makes perfect sense that I can't call that a lie. I have no way of knowing what that person actually believes. However, if a person says "oxmixmudd believes X" without first hand knowledge that is what I believe, then it is the other person that has no clue what they are talking about. Now, if that person says "I believe oxmixmudd believes X", that would be subject to the first rule. That is their belief, and I can't say one way or the other if that is true. But if a person says "oxmixmudd believes X", and they don't know that by my own declaration, then they are not telling the truth, because they are stating as fact that which they have no way of knowing. That is, for the same reason I cant know if MM's statment of belief about something is true, neither can MM know what I believe unless I tell him.
But this is one step further. MM knows I don't believe what he claimed I believe, because I have repeatedly denounced such characterizations of my belief. So It's a lie, because he knows that is not what I believe, and because he did not qualify his statement as being his own belief, it is not subject to being excused as merely being his belief. Therefore, he has stated as a fact that which he knows not to be true - [I]the definition of a lie[/B].
JimSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo much for the "Hillary won the popular vote and should be president" crowd, huh?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI think the hatred is going both ways right now. It's not just one direction. Trump seems to revel in stirring it up, adding to the flame - but it is not all his fault.
Jim
I said I've voted for Democrats and Republicans but after this kind of hatred and off-the-wall ideas I doubt if I would ever vote for a Democrat again.
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostThe hatred started right after Trump's election without waiting to see what he would do and that hatred was caused by Clinton not winning the election. Democrats would treat Cruz or Rubio as they do Trump if either had one.
I said I've voted for Democrats and Republicans but after this kind of hatred and off-the-wall ideas I doubt if I would ever vote for a Democrat again.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd the whole "Trump is not a legitimate president" routine from the left.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostGiven the Russians actively attempted to help him win and that he did not win the popular vote - is that such a stretch?
JimSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe hatred was already in full swing at Trump's rallies long before the election completed. I conceded it's not all Trump's fault. But neither does the fault lie solely in the more liberal camps. There is a lot of blame to go around.
Jim
And then you have Trump giving an inspiring salute to America and its armed forces on July 4th while liberal pundits wrung their hands in despair and mocked the President, and protesters burned American flags in front of the White House.
Oh, but it's Trump who is hateful.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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