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Jim Acosta has 'never witnessed' news outlets trying 'to damage one particular party'
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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostAnd yet, these oh so honest media types found themselves at a loss for negative things to say about Trump when he was in Japan one time, that they had to air a doctored video to make him look bad, and gave an entirely fake write-up to support a negative news-story. It isn't the only time that they were caught out - just one so obviously egregious example of how far they are willing to go to undermine Trump that their credibility is dust. Until the Koi-feeding affair, I had my doubts about the impartiality of reporting - since then, I have had none. The blatant lies said about him become ever more blatant as the media becomes ever more desperate - and irrelevant.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNever said they were 'oh so honest'. I said that trump presents a situation where no legitimate journalist is going to be able to avoid an adversarial relationship because their job is to report the truth.
Jim1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNever said they were 'oh so honest'. I said that trump presents a situation where no legitimate journalist is going to be able to avoid an adversarial relationship because their job is to report the truth.
JimLast edited by lilpixieofterror; 06-14-2019, 07:06 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostAnd yet, these oh so honest media types found themselves at a loss for negative things to say about Trump when he was in Japan one time, that they had to air a doctored video to make him look bad, and gave an entirely fake write-up to support a negative news-story. It isn't the only time that they were caught out - just one so obviously egregious example of how far they are willing to go to undermine Trump that their credibility is dust. Until the Koi-feeding affair, I had my doubts about the impartiality of reporting - since then, I have had none. The blatant lies said about him become ever more blatant as the media becomes ever more desperate - and irrelevant.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd on the flip side, why did we so rarely see critical reporting of Obama even when it was warranted?
2: Those who weren't were afraid of being called racist[1]
c) And for those who still had the gall to do so, Obama sicced the federal government on them.
1. The reason that late night comics shied away from poking fun at Obama for the first two years of his Administration and instead kept telling George W. Bush jokes.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostSorry - no deal. And I disagree that the MSM 'has been targeting him for 3 years'. Rather, Trump has continuously engaged in negative, lying behavior that has to be covered and exposed for what it is. The press is required to report the truth. Since trump lies about almost everything, they are forced to report the truth behind what he is lying about. There really is no other way to cover trump than in an adversarial way. He's a messenger of falsehoods and deception and he wants everyone around him to go along with those lies and deceptions. What else can they do?
Jim
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI don't see why it has to be an either/or. I think that Trump continuously says dumb things, and lies a lot (most of which are based in braggadocio and saving face), but that the media also exaggerates their claims about him. I hate that, because as much as I don't care for him, I'd rather that the media simply be honest. There's plenty to dislike about him or his policies without making stuff up. I listen to NPR pretty regularly, and they absolutely can't not put the worst spin on everything he says whether it's deserved or not. Just be freaking objective. Is that so hard? But the news is more and more about preaching to the choir, and telling their demographic what they want to hear rather than reporting the news unbiased and fairly.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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A lot of media these days is "news and commentary" with a heavy emphasis on the latter. I don't need anyone to "analyze" the news for me. Just report the straight facts and let me figure it out on my own!Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA lot of media these days is "news and commentary" with a heavy emphasis on the latter. I don't need anyone to "analyze" the news for me. Just report the straight facts and let me figure it out on my own!
Then, particularly in matters regarding religion, it seemed they'd find a very articulate spokesperson for the "against" side, and the most inarticulate ignorant "Christian" for the "for" side.
Now, they just make things up! Who was it who said, recently, that all pretense of fairness had to go*?
*my own dear brudder will be along shortly to provide the answer to this gripping questionLast edited by Cow Poke; 06-14-2019, 08:46 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA lot of media these days is "news and commentary" with a heavy emphasis on the latter. I don't need anyone to "analyze" the news for me. Just report the straight facts and let me figure it out on my own!
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Originally posted by Adrift View Post...I then hope that the truth is somewhere in the middle of that mess, but often its hard to tell, especially when news organizations are more interested in reporting the story first rather than accurately.
Or worse... the breathless 24/7 news cycle that has reporters "on the scene" breathlessly speculating in the absence of fact, while saying stupid stuff like, "Now, we don't want to speculate, but....."
It's all about ratings. I recently read an article where it was revealed that it used to be an accepted fact that the "news" was a necessary expense, and actually a loss to the network, until somebody figured out how to monetize it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd I get SO tired of "our reporters were first on the scene" or "Channel 11 EXCLUSIVELY covers this story" or, worse, "the tease".... "A Houston man is in jail following a triple homicide.... find out why when we return...."
Or worse... the breathless 24/7 news cycle that has reporters "on the scene" breathlessly speculating in the absence of fact, while saying stupid stuff like, "Now, we don't want to speculate, but....."
It's all about ratings. I recently read an article where it was revealed that it used to be an accepted fact that the "news" was a necessary expense, and actually a loss to the network, until somebody figured out how to monetize it.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYep. I don't think that the news has ever been bias-free, but 40 years ago we got a much fuller story simply because it took so long to get the news to the audience. That, by itself, cut down a lot of the nonsense speculation, and goof-ball half truths. Getting the news out there before all the facts come in means that the narrative can be controlled, and people usually only care about the news as it breaks, not once all the facts come in. But there's no way of reversing the current trend.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo. I'm saying it's the press' job to report the truth. Any one reporting the truth and interacting with trump will appear to be in an adversarial relationship with Donald Trump. Because the Truth itself is in an adversarial relationship with Donald Trump. Just look at the number of advisers and cabinet members that have left on bad terms with trump because they would not cross a line on what it true verses what trump wanted to hear!
And that is what Acosta is saying. The apparent hostility that you rally around is nothing more than what happens when the truth meets Donald Trump. They are mortal enemies.
Jim
*You realize that no matter what you say, I am going to interpret it as you agreeing with me, right?
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