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Police officers nationwide flagged for racist and violent social media posts
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It's been well known for at least 10-15 years that putting things on your social media that reflects badly on you can backfire. I cannot comprehend the stupidity of anybody who still manages to throw away their career online."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt's been well known for at least 10-15 years that putting things on your social media that reflects badly on you can backfire. I cannot comprehend the stupidity of anybody who still manages to throw away their career online.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostTrue, I was more concerned with the racist and violent views expressed by the law officers.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou could no doubt find similarly "racist and violent views" expressed by members of all professions.
I also have my suspicions that the researchers are using a very loose definition of "racist and violent views".
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post'No doubt'?!?!? What a rouse. If you have comparable surveys please present them. Maybe biker gangs or extreme right wing groups, separatist movements, or left wing revolutionary movements.
The accusations were specific and documented to the point that the administrations are taking disciplinary actions.
Also, I fully expect to see violent posts on police officers' social media. We're comfortable with violence (have to be), and sometimes...I dunno, forget....that it's violence isn't very politically correct.
The racism thing, though....well, people suck."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostGet over yourself. I'm sure there are plenty of groups where one could find similar comments on social media, though probably not other groups of people who are scrutinized as rigorously.
Also, I fully expect to see violent posts on police officers' social media. We're comfortable with violence (have to be), and sometimes...I dunno, forget....that it's violence isn't very politically correct.
The racism thing, though....well, people suck.
Coherent responses with references are welcome.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post'No doubt'?!?!? What a rouse. If you have comparable surveys please present them. Maybe biker gangs or extreme right wing groups, separatist movements, or left wing revolutionary movements.
The accusations were specific and documented to the point that the administrations are taking disciplinary actions.
It interferes with their capacity to do their jobs.
It reflects badly on the good officers.
It endangers the public.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 06-09-2019, 07:53 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostGet over yourself. Your sure there are what?!?!?! Cite references if you fell this strongly about it. This is not just 'comments' on social media. It was strong enough that law enforcement in various cities are taking disciplinary action against the law enforcement officers.
Coherent responses with references are welcome.
The fact that law enforcement admin is taking disciplinary action doesn't mean anything at all. Big city admin frequently discipline officers based on whichever direction the political wind is blowing. For example, suddenly at my agency, people are getting wrote up for using foul language. The entire Department uses foul language to one degree or another, and so do 99% of our 'clients', but the new chief doesn't much like it. So excuse me for not holding my breath over the significance of officers being disciplined.Last edited by myth; 06-09-2019, 07:59 AM."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostI haven't claimed to have such research, I'm making an argument from logic. Since you seem to disagree, how about you explain why you think police officers are prone to racism and violence at a higher rate than the general population? Because that seems to me to be a very illogical assumption built on your own bias.
IOW, police officers need to be a subgroup that significantly exceeds the norm in terms of high moral standards and a capacity to fairly enforce the law.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 06-09-2019, 08:01 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI dont think that is the point at all. As public servants with the responsibility to make split second life and death decisions, it is imperitive they not carry any intrinsic bias or hatred for specific groups of people with them as they perform their duties.
Jim
But since we're talking about it, it rather annoys me that my freedom of speech is severely curtailed because of my profession. I can't really talk about political issues on social media, or even publicly vent about my employer because of the perception of the public. And the Supreme Court has ruled that this reduction of 1st Amendment rights is constitutional, which is a load of crap. If I were in another profession, I would have a much higher degree to freedom to express myself publicly.
That said, I understand the reasoning behind it and generally comply because I prefer to remain employed."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostI haven't argued against that. I simply expressed a lack of surprise about it, and the OP seems to disagree with me. I haven't made any arguments about how officer's social media post impact the image of their agency and affect the relationship with the community.
But since we're talking about it, it rather annoys me that my freedom of speech is severely curtailed because of my profession. I can't really talk about political issues on social media, or even publicly vent about my employer because of the perception of the public. And the Supreme Court has ruled that this reduction of 1st Amendment rights is constitutional, which is a load of crap. If I were in another profession, I would have a much higher degree to freedom to express myself publicly.
That said, I understand the reasoning behind it and generally comply because I prefer to remain employed.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 06-09-2019, 08:28 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIOW, police officers need to be a subgroup that significantly exceeds the norm in terms of high moral standards and a capacity to fairly enforce the law.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhich brings up another point: is there a correlation between officers who made those posts and officers who exhibit the inability to carry out their duty fairly and judiciously? The article doesn't seem to say."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI dont have a social media presence publically tied to who I at all because that is what is best for my job. And I have no problem with it, because that is what is best for everyone, including myself. Try to think of it as part of the sacrifice you willingly make for the good of all rather than something that is forcefully taken from you.
Jim
It just still seems...draconian. On a related matter (and not just related to law enforcement), I also believe that employers have too much authority to determine whether or not their employees have tattoos or facial hair. Seems like those are a form of speech, and I see little legit reason for employers to regulate them."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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