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Police officers nationwide flagged for racist and violent social media posts
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The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNo. I've seen footage of the incident.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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So this guy goes to buy a car, then shoots the seller 5 times and steals the car. Then he posts on facebook bragging that the police can't catch him. US Marshalls go after him and he rams their car and comes at them shooting. They shoot back and kill him and the crowd starts rioting and throwing stuff at the police injuring 36 of them, 6 had to go to the hospital. THEN the dead guy's father goes and put out a "hit" on law enforcement officers.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMy question was admittedly oddly worded, so I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo this guy goes to buy a car, then shoots the seller 5 times and steals the car. Then he posts on facebook bragging that the police can't catch him. US Marshalls go after him and he rams their car and comes at them shooting. They shoot back and kill him and the crowd starts rioting and throwing stuff at the police injuring 36 of them, 6 had to go to the hospital. THEN the dead guy's father goes and put out a "hit" on law enforcement officers.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostRoy agreeing with you? I suppose there's a first time for everything.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postnot the issue of the thread.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe "issue" is that you have yet to show that police are racist at a higher rate than the general population, or that racism is a pervasive and systemic issue in police departments in general."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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With regard to the discussion about body cameras, another factor is what's happening where I work. Which is also exactly what they assured us would not happen when they rolled out body cameras. They're reviewing body camera video seemingly at random and then disciplining officers for minor policy violations that no one has complained about it. You wore sunglasses while you weren't driving? Paperwork. You said a curse word while talking to a member of the public? Paperwork. It's insanity.
I've also heard of BLM activists not supporting body cameras because some of the footage is being used to disapprove the false claims made by criminal offenders. The argument is that body cameras deny them the opportunity to make stuff up to further their political agenda. I don't have any sources on that, though."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostWith regard to the discussion about body cameras, another factor is what's happening where I work. Which is also exactly what they assured us would not happen when they rolled out body cameras. They're reviewing body camera video seemingly at random and then disciplining officers for minor policy violations that no one has complained about it. You wore sunglasses while you weren't driving? Paperwork. You said a curse word while talking to a member of the public? Paperwork. It's insanity.
I've also heard of BLM activists not supporting body cameras because some of the footage is being used to disapprove the false claims made by criminal offenders. The argument is that body cameras deny them the opportunity to make stuff up to further their political agenda. I don't have any sources on that, though.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by myth View PostWith regard to the discussion about body cameras, another factor is what's happening where I work.....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by myth View PostI haven't argued against that. I simply expressed a lack of surprise about it, and the OP seems to disagree with me. I haven't made any arguments about how officer's social media post impact the image of their agency and affect the relationship with the community.
But since we're talking about it, it rather annoys me that my freedom of speech is severely curtailed because of my profession. I can't really talk about political issues on social media, or even publicly vent about my employer because of the perception of the public. And the Supreme Court has ruled that this reduction of 1st Amendment rights is constitutional, which is a load of crap. If I were in another profession, I would have a much higher degree to freedom to express myself publicly.
That said, I understand the reasoning behind it and generally comply because I prefer to remain employed.
What matters is the caliber of people wearing the blue and charged with public safety. I would consider it a basic job requirement that someone applying to be a police officer not exhibit racial prejudice (or any prejudice) that could color the performance of their job.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI imagine there are deep rooted socio factors involved that after awhile, even otherwise well meaning police officers end up profiling people by race. If you're a beat cop, and your daily interactions mean hitting certain parts of the city, and/or primarily dealing with minority groups, that's eventually going to shape ones thinking about those minority groups (even if you belong to said minority group). Human nature is to profile and stereotype, and it's hard to break free from those habits. Breaking officers free from that sort of negative profiling may mean getting them involved in the community in positive ways outside of law enforcement, and helping the community itself to become more involved in self-policing, not in a law enforcement sense, but in openly discouraging get-over types, and trouble-making outliers, working with law enforcement to actively shut down illegal operations, and taking pride in one's environment through broken window policing.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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