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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHe wants to bargain with the burglar who just broke into his home and already has him tied up and tossed in a corner.Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.
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Originally posted by QuantaFille View PostHe just didn't listen when we said we're already on it and the things he's suggesting are not working very well.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"Not working very well" for the purpose of stopping abortion, but that's because the pro-abortion lobby will never agree to any compromise that promotes that goal. It's why carpe's entire premise fails.Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.
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Originally posted by QuantaFille View PostTo be fair, I don't see him as saying that. He has said that he wants to find solutions to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but that he doesn't have any as yet. That's why he started the other thread, to brainstorm with people to see how we can change popular culture to see contraception/prevention/adoption in a positive way, and abortion as a thing to be avoided. He just didn't listen when we said we're already on it and the things he's suggesting are not working very well.
We already have 99.9% effective birth control. If people don't want to get pregnant they don't have to. And they all know about it. They are taught it at home and at schools. So the fact that there are unwanted pregnancies is due to them not giving a crap. Not taking precautions.
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Originally posted by QuantaFille View PostTo be fair, I don't see him as saying that. He has said that he wants to find solutions to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but that he doesn't have any as yet. That's why he started the other thread, to brainstorm with people to see how we can change popular culture to see contraception/prevention/adoption in a positive way, and abortion as a thing to be avoided. He just didn't listen when we said we're already on it and the things he's suggesting are not working very well.
We already have 99.9% effective birth control. If people don't want to get pregnant they don't have to. And they all know about it. They are taught it at home and at schools. So the fact that there are unwanted pregnancies is due to them not giving a crap. Not taking precautions.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLeaving ZERO choice to the baby. Not pro-choice.
I'll ignore the rest of your moronic attempt at mind reading.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe so called (baby) is not it's own body, it is the womans body, the womens choice to make.
The fetus could possible be a human being one day, and though it is certainly human, so is the pancreas, it is not a human being, it is, like the pancreas, the womans body. I know, you beg to differ, but the courts have ruled concerning personhood, R vs W, and we know you conservative, self described pro-lifers, don't really give a damn about persons anyway, except when they are still in their possibility state.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe so called (baby) is not it's own body, it is the womans body, the womens choice to make.
The fetus could possible be a human being one day, and though it is certainly human, so is the pancreas, it is not a human being, it is, like the pancreas
the womans body.
I know, you beg to differ, but the courts have ruled concerning personhood, R vs W,
and we know you conservative, self described pro-lifers, don't really give a damn about persons anyway, except when they are still in their possibility state.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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I've probably said this before, but let's say a fetus has a problem that would result in death if not immediately resuscitated after birth. For example, hypoplastic left heart syndrome or something severely affecting the lung development. So, in order to save the baby, they are taken out in an EXIT procedure to be connected to an ECMO machine while still receiving oxygen from the placenta. Now the baby stays attached to this machine that provides oxygen instead of the lungs for several months to help the lungs develop or recover from heart surgery. The baby will not breathe on their own until they come off the ECMO. How is the postbirth life support any different from the prebirth life support?If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostI've probably said this before, but let's say a fetus has a problem that would result in death if not immediately resuscitated after birth. For example, hypoplastic left heart syndrome or something severely affecting the lung development. So, in order to save the baby, they are taken out in an EXIT procedure to be connected to an ECMO machine while still receiving oxygen from the placenta. Now the baby stays attached to this machine that provides oxygen instead of the lungs for several months to help the lungs develop or recover from heart surgery. The baby will not breathe on their own until they come off the ECMO. How is the postbirth life support any different from the prebirth life support?1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe baby has its very own unique DNA - sciences proves you wrong.
Wow, what "BiologyForMorons" did you get THAT crap from?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIndeed. Anybody who doesn't know that an embryo is a completely separate organism from the mother is scientifically illiterate.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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they deceive and get deceived, never becoming able to acknowledge the truth.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOr dishonest!Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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