The Mueller Report

[JimL]

Wannnnhhhhhh, Trump is a crook, we need an investigation.... Special Council!!!! YAY!!!! Mueller is on the job, indictments are flying, people are going to JAIL!!!! Trump is going DOWN!!!!!
Waaaannnnnhhhhhh, Mueller didn't deliver what we wanted, we want MORE hearings....

Now we know which constituency actually cares about the Constitution, Democracy, and the rule of law, and you aren't a member of it. You'd sell your country down the drain rather than admit to your presidents treasonous destruction of our democratic institutions and his criminal behavior. Can't pretend your on the fence waiting for those fact thingies anymore, CP.

[Cow Poke]

Now we know which constituency actually cares about the Constitution, Democracy, and the rule of law, and you aren't a member of it.

You're so full of it.

You'd sell your country down the drain rather than admit to your presidents treasonous destruction of our democratic institutions and his criminal behavior. Can't pretend your on the fence waiting for those fact thingies anymore, CP.

What an idiot.

Remember when you just KNEW that the Mueller investigation was going to get Trump?

Absolutely, but don't get your hopes up. And yourself, will you accept Muellers determination if it turns out Trump or his associates are guilty of obstruction, collusion, or other crimes?

You're obviously not accepting Mueller's 'determination'.

[Mountain Man]

It's like Hillary saying she would accept the results of the election when she felt certain she would win.

[JimL]

You're so full of it.



What an idiot.

Remember when you just KNEW that the Mueller investigation was going to get Trump?



You're obviously not accepting Mueller's 'determination'.

Oh, I'm accepting the Mueller investigation alright, but unlike you, I'm not accepting Trumps front mans spin on it. Apparently you can't read or think for yourself, or more likely you don't want to.

[Cow Poke]

Oh, I'm accepting the Mueller investigation alright, but unlike you, I'm totally adding my own twist to it.

fify

[oxmixmudd]

Are you in favor of declassifying the FISA material?

Are you in favor of POTUS using terms that apply to banana republics and dictatorships to describe a legitimate investigation into his own shady dealings with the Russians?

And can you really look at Flynn and Manafort and Cohen and how many other people up to their necks in broken laws and shady deals that Trump has surrounded himself with and go along with the idea that there needed to be shady action on the part of the FBI to justify this investigation?


Jim

[JimL]

fify

Don't be afraid of the hearings and the truth coming out, CP. Your fear of the public hearings on the matter is telling. And that goes for all of you Trumpsters who are complicit in his underming of our democratic institutions, our democracy! Very sad!

[Mountain Man]

Oh, I'm accepting the Mueller investigation alright, but unlike you, I'm not accepting Trumps front mans spin on it. Apparently you can't read or think for yourself, or more likely you don't want to.

Which part of Mueller's report convinced you that Trump was guilty: the part where Mueller said no members of the Trump campaign coordinated or conspired with Russia, or was it the part where he said he could not conclude that Trump obstructed justice?

[Mountain Man]

Are you in favor of POTUS using terms that apply to banana republics and dictatorships to describe a legitimate investigation into his own shady dealings with the Russians?

And can you really look at Flynn and Manafort and Cohen and how many other people up to their necks in broken laws and shady deals that Trump has surrounded himself with and go along with the idea that there needed to be shady action on the part of the FBI to justify this investigation?

Jim

The evidence suggests that the investigation was not only shady but entirely politically motivated, not least is the fact that despite expending tremendous resources and digging deep into Trump's professional and personal life, they couldn't find even a scrap of evidence that implicates Trump.

I know this frustrates you, but it's the simple truth

[rogue06]

The evidence suggests that the investigation was not only shady but entirely politically motivated, not least is the fact that despite expending tremendous resources and digging deep into Trump's professional and personal life, they couldn't find even a scrap of evidence that implicates Trump.

I know this frustrates you, but it's the simple truth

From something I just posted in another thread:

Finally, a poll conducted on behalf of CBS News found that a majority of Americans, 54%, think that the Mueller probe was politically motivated job rather than justified. This agrees with a USA TODAY/Suffolk University poll which revealed that half of Americans agree with Trump's contention that he has been the victim of a "witch hunt."

[oxmixmudd]

The evidence suggests that the investigation was not only shady but entirely politically motivated, not least is the fact that despite expending tremendous resources and digging deep into Trump's professional and personal life, they couldn't find even a scrap of evidence that implicates Trump.

That simply isn't true MM. As I have said previously, Trump tried to impede the investigation and was stopped only because the people he tried to get to do his dirty work refused. And president trump willingly cooperated with and publicly sought help from the Russians during the campaign. Not only that, he had on his staff and payroll a large group of people now charged with crimes as a result of this investigation.

And it's not over. There are state investigations into his finances and taxes. And Congress has yet to hear the full, unredacted report, and has yet to decide if it will take Mueller's suggestion and act on it.


Your over the top proclamations are the simple evidence what you are saying is not true and that you know it is not true. The truth is just simply not that black and white, not that cut-n-dry. Anytime someone like you takes such a complex outcome and tries to declare some simplistic absolute summary like you have, they are lying, plain and simple. You are just hoping if you shout it loud enough and long enough the people that know it wasn't that clear cut will get tired of calling you out on it and go away.


Jim

[Mountain Man]

That simply isn't true MM. As I have said previously, Trump tried to impede the investigation and was stopped only because the people he tried to get to do his dirty work refused. And president trump willingly cooperated with and publicly sought help from the Russians during the campaign. Not only that, he had on his staff and payroll a large group of people now charged with crimes as a result of this investigation.

And it's not over. There are state investigations into his finances and taxes. And Congress has yet to hear the full, unredacted report, and has yet to decide if it will take Mueller's suggestion and act on it.


Your over the top proclamations are the simple evidence what you are saying is not true and that you know it is not true. The truth is just simply not that black and white, not that cut-n-dry. Anytime someone like you takes such a complex outcome and tries to declare some simplistic absolute summary like you have, they are lying, plain and simple. You are just hoping if you shout it loud enough and long enough the people that know it wasn't that clear cut will get tired of calling you out on it and go away.


Jim

"This investigation could not conclude that the President committed any crimes."
-Special Counsel Robert Mueller

"After reviewing the Special Counsel's final report on these issues; consulting with Department officials, including the Office of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."
-Attorney General William Barr

[Cow Poke]

Are you in favor of POTUS using terms that apply to banana republics and dictatorships to describe a legitimate investigation into his own shady dealings with the Russians?

Can you please answer my question? Then I'll answer yours. I asked....

Are you in favor of declassifying the FISA material?

[Mountain Man]

[I]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019...the-democrats/

[carpedm9587]

They don't need impeachment to do that. Trump already has claimed the investigation was a 'coup' several times.

Jim

Yeah... I know... he's a baby autocrat at heart, so I'm not really surprised.