I think he wants to be a War President; Saudi Arabia v Iran. Soften them up first like a true gangsta.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, this is very similar to the argument that "airplanes are regularly crashing all the time and killing thousands of people".
There is no comparison. Honestly, to think there is points to the extreme bias driving this debate
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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So how did it all start? Pull quote from a much longer analysis:
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There is little doubt the FISA-702(16)(17) database system was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition. Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place. [...]
Everything after March 9th, 2016, was done to cover up the weaponization of the FISA database. Spygate, Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier, and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying. Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; he was FBI Director when this began.
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This isn't speculation or conspiracy theorizing but factual reporting based on hard evidence. I suggest folks read the whole thing.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...lance-program/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostOne of the biggest causes AND symptoms of TDS is constipated humorlessness.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe need to invent a fake psychological diagnoses for a reasonable reaction to the extreme that is donald trump is nothing more than a projection of the cognitive dissonance that comes from otherwise moral people forcing themselves to abandon nearly every moral principle they have in order to support him.
JimThat's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSchiff also continues to claim that he's sitting on a mountain load of evidence proving that Trump colluded with the Russians, yet for some strange reason he didn't give it to Mueller or even now will say what it is. Could it be that Schiff is a shiftless liar who is full of... um, poop?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostReasonable??
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat it clearly shows is that Trump can be a real jerk, but we already know that. It also shows that me manages to push liberals to new heights (or depths) of drama and hysteria.
And does trump recognize that he avoided disaster because of their wisdom and self interest?
No, he's mad as he can be.
One day that arrogance and disregard for the law will get him. But more importantly, that continued incapacity to recognize his need for those that will speak when he is about to self destruct can translate into major consequences for our people and our nation
He is a disaster that would have already happened but for those around him willing to sacrifice themselves for this country. But as he continues to receive the irrational and blind support we see in this and other threads, he is gradually finding more and more yes men and trump devotees to fill critical positions, and with them is disappearing the protection from him they have provided.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 04-23-2019, 10:12 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYes, but i understand you are incapable of comprehending that at this tine
JimThat's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo. What is in that report is trump repeatedly trying to interfere in the investigation in ways so completely wrong that his staff knew if they cooperated they would go down when it was discovered what was done. And so they protected themselves, and incidentally also protected trump.
And does trump recognize that he avoided disaster because of their wisdom and self interest?
No, he's mad as he can be.
One day that arrogance and disregard for the law will get him. But more importantly, that continued incapacity to recognize his need for those that will speak when he is about to self destruct can translate into major consequences for our people and our nation
He is a disaster that would have already happened but for those around him willing to sacrifice themselves for this country. But as he continues to receive the irrational and blind support we see in this and other threads, he is gradually finding more and more yes men and trump devotees to fill critical positions, and with them is disappearing the protection from him they have provided.
Jim
Jim, let me ask you a serious question. Do you believe that the Hillary situation was investigated with the same tenacity and thoroughness that Mueller exercised here? And would we even KNOW about a lot of this stuff if Mueller had, in deed, been "obstructed"?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYes, a real jerk.
So, at best you can say, he attempted to obstruct, because Mueller was never fired, the report was produced...
There's a lot of that going around.
And, once again, you're responding to ME, and raging on about "blind support", which, in my case, is outright wrong.
Jim, let me ask you a serious question. Do you believe that the Hillary situation was investigated with the same tenacity and thoroughness that Mueller exercised here? And would we even KNOW about a lot of this stuff if Mueller had, in deed, been "obstructed"?Last edited by JimL; 04-23-2019, 10:30 AM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAs explained to you before CP, attempted obstruction is treated legally the same as obstruction. Just because he didn't get away with it, doesn't make it legal. And I might add, as a one time defender of the law, you should not only know this, but you shouldn't be defending the president of the U.S. of all people for breaking it.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAs explained to you before CP,
attempted obstruction is treated legally the same as obstruction.
Just because he didn't get away with it, doesn't make it legal. And I might add, as a one time defender of the law, you should not only know this, but you shouldn't be defending the president of the U.S. of all people for breaking it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd as explained to you and others repeatedly,
wanting to, and even moving to, remove Mueller would not be obstruction since it is something that Trump could legally do. The only price he could pay for doing so would be at the ballot box in 2020.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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