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The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhen I was a police officer, and we were transporting a female, we were required to radio in our current location and mileage - go to the destination in the most direct manner practical - and radio in our ending mileage and location. I'm wondering if anybody can figure out the reason that would be, when we were not required to do the same for males.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostSexism, obviously. What else could it be?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postyep obviously you didn't respect or trust your female prisoners. Sad.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI've seen some recent photos of Keanu Reeves standing for photos with female fans, and while he has his arm around them, you can clearly see him keeping his hand from any actual physical contact.
I wonder if this, too, would be seen as simply objectifying them.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah it seems upside down. By making sure they keep their distance and NOT grope women, men are disrespecting them?
I guess that means Joe Biden is showing his respect by smelling their hair and giving them shoulder rubs then.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm curious? Why would you think being careful about where you put your hands is "objectifying" someone?I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostIt seems to be where your reasoning would lead. I mean, if he were to take a photo with his hand on the shoulder of a male fan, the analogous nature of the two cases seems obvious.
This is what makes Pence's choice objectifying. Someone asked, earlier, about what I thought was an example form the right of "identity politics," and this is one of them. The rule/law is not based on the individual situation and relationship. It lumps "women" into a group and treats them all the same. Their identity is "woman" so "no unchaperoned meetings." If this rule were adopted by a CEO, it would mean any female subordinate would be treated differently than any male subordinate, impacting their careers and jobs.
The whole thing is, IMO, ludicrous.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'll tell you this, though --- on average, they cuss and threaten FAR more than most men! Any time I had to transport an intoxicated female, I knew there was a distinct possibility my vocabulary would be expanded.
ETA: LOL I found it on youtube. It still has some words in it that we can't put on tweb, so watch at your own risk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsoHj-ONcy4
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThis is what makes Pence's choice objectifying.
The whole thing is, IMO, ludicrous.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI was watching LivePD a few weeks ago (a repeat) and their was this woman - drunk or high, or both - who was cussing and fighting with the cops. They ended up putting her on a stretcher, wrapping her in a velcro tube they called "the burrito" and sending her off in an ambulance to get checked out. And she was still cursing them on the way to the ambulance. It was one long series of beeps.
ETA: LOL I found it on youtube. It still has some words in it that we can't put on tweb, so watch at your own risk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsoHj-ONcy4
One of the women I was escorting out actually broke free, dropped to her knees and tried to bite... um... I ended up with a big purple bruise on my upper inner thigh near my kibbles that would have been far worse had I not been wearing my winter uniform, which included thicker wool pants. (In Texas, there are only about 3 days per year those are desired )The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat you abhor him is another factor.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou're certainly entitled to your opinion, but what skin is it off your nose if somebody else chooses to err on the side of caution.
It's no skin off my nose that hundreds of people were harmed or died in the California wildfires - that doesn't mean I don't find it sad.
It's no skin off my nose that people are/were rioting in France - that doesn't mean I don't find rioting a bad thing.
When someone in a public position makes a bad example by objectifying people - I'd rather point it out than "let it slide."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI don't recommend you go into business as a mindreader...
It's no skin off my nose that Madoff bilked hundreds of people - that doesn't mean I don't think its wrong.
It's no skin off my nose that hundreds of people were harmed or died in the California wildfires - that doesn't mean I don't find it sad.
It's no skin off my nose that people are/were rioting in France - that doesn't mean I don't find rioting a bad thing.
When someone in a public position makes a bad example by objectifying people - I'd rather point it out than "let it slide."The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWe actually had special training in basic on how to escort a drunk woman out of a bar, for instance, with a special "thumb hold", because it if looked like we were abusing a woman, all the other drunks would pile on.
One of the women I was escorting out actually broke free, dropped to her knees and tried to bite... um... I ended up with a big purple bruise on my upper inner thigh near my kibbles that would have been far worse had I not been wearing my winter uniform, which included thicker wool pants. (In Texas, there are only about 3 days per year those are desired )
Too bad he wasn't only "objectifying" her, but, um....
Sheeeeesh!!!!!
*I maintain that roster, and never heard of this guyThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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