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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostGotta love you squabbling, judgmental Christians.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHe probably has one, but isn't willing to post it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Postyour brand of Christianity not his. The Catholic Church applies a different standard again, which relates to being a Christian church with a hierarchy of priests and bishops under the pope, a liturgy centered in the Mass, veneration of the Virgin Mary and saints, clerical celibacy, and a body of dogma including transubstantiation and papal infallibility. Up until Vatican II you lot were deemed heretics destined for hell...just as you are consigning Buttigieg and liberal Christianity to perdition for their "erroneous" beliefs. There's no difference in principle.
Gotta love you squabbling, judgmental Christians.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI have searched high and low -- it appears the ONLY reason he was "drawn to" the Episcopal Church is because they are accepting of his homosexuality.
There is ZERO reference to his "faith" on his official website.
He has made statements questioning the practice of prayer.
His partner's brother mentions concern over the rejection of Christ, and claims this whole "faith" thing is a campaign ruse.
There is no evidence that he ever joined the Episcopal Church.
There is no evidence that he actually attends the Episcopal Church.
There is no evidence that he ever refers to the Bible with regards to his lifestyle choice.
Tass and Jimmy have been unable to produce even ONE quote where Buttigieg even suggests he's a Christian, or - a lower bar - a practicing Episcopalian.
It appears the media has just 'ordained' him a Christian because he'd be the "right kind" of Christian - one who ignores scripture and paints Jesus as loving and forgiving and accepting of homosexuality.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
Or perhaps "Practicing Christian" should be open to anyone you consider to be a "practicing Christian"? You don't have the prescribed credentials that would make your call credible.
What we are left with is an evaluation of whether a person claiming to be a practicing Christian meets the minimum (at least) standards of Christian as defined by Holy Writ - and opinions will vary with regard to what can be considered valid evaluations.Last edited by tabibito; 05-29-2019, 05:15 AM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
You crack me up Tassman. Your story keeps changing post by post and you try to claim that it was your claim all along, when we can all see what you posted before! I think they call that "gas lighting" - when you try to sell someone on a false reality.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy argument was that the interpretation of scripture varies e.g. the likes of Buttigieg, as a practicing Christian, interprets scripture in such a way that homosexuality is OK with a loving God.Originally posted by Tassman View PostJust as the likes of Buttigieg, as a practicing Christian, interpret scripture in such a way that homosexuality is OK with a loving God.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy claim, supported by several links...
It appears absolutely impossible for you to admit "OK, I SHOULD have said....."
Look, you ignorant jackass - it doesn't matter HOW one defines "practicing Christian" -- the fact is that, no matter HOW it is defined, you can not produce a single example of Buttigieg ever making that claim, which is what you have said repeatedly.
At this point I'm just going to have to assume you're a serial prevaricator of the lowest order.
And this would be another lie - I have NEVER said Buttigieg was not a Christian.
I'm done with this - unless you keep bringing it up.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
- I have NEVER said Buttigieg was not a Christian.
emphasizing how his gay identity is intertwined with his faith.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...aith-sexuality
And it was to this which you took exception dismissing the notion that Buttigieg could be a "real" Christian along with endless quotes from Evangelical "experts" to this effect to back your claim. And all this despite my primary argument, going back to #110, which was not..later citing such differences of interpretation re slavery, the role of women and etc... all of which you ignored in favor of your moronic fixation about being a "committed Christian".
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAnd yet:
Your anti-Christian bigotry causes you to say some really stupid stuff, then your insolent arrogant pride won't let you back down.
Your claim was that Buttigieg himself claimed to be a practicing Christian -- regardless of what "practicing Christian" means.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy argument was that the interpretation of scripture varies e.g. the likes of Buttigieg, as a practicing Christian, interprets scripture in such a way that homosexuality is OK with a loving God.Originally posted by Tassman View Postpracticing ChristianOriginally posted by Tassman View Postpracticing Christian but he does,...Originally posted by Tassman View Postpracticing ChristianOriginally posted by Tassman View Post....Buttigieg claims to be a ...
You have failed to give even ONE example that Buttigieg said any such thing.
You're really not helping yourself with all your kabuki theater.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm a little unclear on what's being argued here. In my estimation, "practicing Christian" is fairly nebulous and can be considered synonymous with "church-goer" - and it does appear that Buttigieg attends (an Episcopalian) church (from the story rogue06 linked). Buttigieg may not have said those exact words, but it appears that we're squabbling over semantics.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm a little unclear on what's being argued here. In my estimation, "practicing Christian" is fairly nebulous and can be considered synonymous with "church-goer" - and it does appear that Buttigieg attends (an Episcopalian) church (from the story rogue06 linked).
Buttigieg may not have said those exact words, but it appears that we're squabbling over semantics.
Buttigieg says precious little about his "faith" --- just about everything concerning his "faith" comes from others who never seem to be able to quote him directly. Just like Buttigieg never seems to have made any reference to the scriptures dealing with homosexuality - he just simply ignores them - despite Tassman's repeated claims that Buttigieg "interprets those scriptures differently".
It is the media and the left that proclaim Buttigieg's "Christianity" and his "faith", not he himself. The only reason Buttigieg's "faith" came up at all was to attack Pence's faith, despite Buttigieg's own claim that he doens't judge others.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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