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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, it does NOT define who we are - that's just jackass stupid. If you allow it to, it can.
If he weren't a homosexual, you'd be condemning his "faith", because you're an anti-Christian bigot. Unless, of course, you don't really consider him a Christian.
What a load of crap! That's what you've been arguing about, Tassy! Can't you keep your argument's straight?You have yet to show ANYWHERE that Buttigieg has made the claim that he's a "practicing Christian".You're so screwed up in the head you can't even keep your stories straight.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostMe too.
I think that alone might preclude him from being elected.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
What I’m condemning is your bigotry in denying that Buttigieg is Christian despite his own firm belief that he is, and which belief is supported by his long connection and involvement with his local Episcopalian church.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostPoor Sparko, you never quite get it do you.
I don’t care whether or not Buttigieg is a “practicing Christian” but he does, and this is the argument in the face of Evangelical objections that he is not.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhat I’m condemning is your bigotry in denying that Buttigieg is Christian despite his own firm belief that he is, and which belief is supported by his long connection and involvement with his local Episcopalian church.
You have also failed to provide any proof concerning his "long connection" to "his local Episcopalian Church, liberal though it may be. He appears to have attended there - you have no evidence whatsoever that he's an active participating member now.
So, you just keep repeating - as you so often do when you're wrong -
What I’ve been arguing about is Buttigieg’s belief that he is a “practicing Christian” in the face of your Evangelical-based objections that he is not.
"Buttigieg is the first openly gay presidential candidate”.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI would call Tassman an anti-religious bigot, but that would be giving him too much credit. So I will call him a littleot.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI have asked you repeatedly for any proof that Buttigieg actually CLAIMS to be a "practicing Christian" - you have provided none.
You have also failed to provide any proof concerning his "long connection" to "his local Episcopalian Church, liberal though it may be. He appears to have attended there - you have no evidence whatsoever that he's an active participating member now.
He says he is a Christian and that his faith has had a strong influence in his life: for about 10 years it's been my faith home
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/02/o...eck/index.html
How is this not a claim to be a "practicing Christian"?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThat is simply not true, I’ve provided several examples.
It's dishonest that you pretend I haven’t, but no surprise there..
Buttigieg claims to be a “practicing Christian”...maybe not as an Evangelical understands that term but as he does.
He says he is a Christian and that his faith has had a strong influence in his life: "I found myself going to services at Christ Church, which happened to be across from my college, Pembroke, at Oxford and found in that very simple liturgy a way to begin to organize my spirituality. So that by the time I came back to the US I felt like I was more-or-less Anglican".
You've obviously never learned anything about verb tenses. Everything in the past, then "I felt like I was more-or-less Anglican"? Really? That's your definition of "practicing Christian? And YOU are the one saying he said "strong influence" -- he didn't say that.
“When I got back to South Bend and was looking for a church home, I found in (the Episcopal Cathedral of) St. James this faith community that really takes seriously that it's urban, that it's part of a city. And just very quickly felt drawn to that community. And now for about 10 years it's been my faith home”.
How is this not a claim to be a "practicing Christian"?
He blows off any kind of prayer life.
He's pro-abortion pretty much without limit.
He doesn't appear to be actually attending Church.
He totally ignores scripture, only picking and choosing the sections he likes.
He talks WAY more about his sexual preference than he does about his faith.
He's a "model Christian" for the atheists, the abortionists, the homocentric crowd...
He appears to be using his 'faith' as a political scheme to advance his own career.
How bout this --- how bout we agree he's a Tassmanian "Christian"!
"More or less Anglican"Last edited by Cow Poke; 05-23-2019, 07:23 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Tass, it's really been amusing how hard you're working to turn Buttigieg into a "practicing Christian".
You begin by claiming he "interprets scripture differently" than we do - yet you have no evidence for that whatsoever. He never claims to 'interpret' that scripture at all.
You then work to deny that you ever made such a claim, while it's there in black and white numerous times.
You move from "practicing Christian" to his very OWN definition of "practicing Christian", which you define yourself.
You do your word-hyping - putting words in Buttigieg's mouth he never said, like claiming that he said his "faith has had a strong influence in his life" when the actual quote you cite is much less affirming. Your actual quote was "I found myself going to services at Christ Church, which happened to be across from my college, Pembroke, at Oxford and found in that very simple liturgy a way to begin to organize my spirituality. So that by the time I came back to the US I felt like I was more-or-less Anglican"
He "found himself going to services"? Yeah, that's really strong faith!
"which happened to be across from my college" He worked hard to seek out the right church.
"very simple liturgy a way to begin to organize my spirituality"? Just began to? Never quite got there?
"I felt like I was more-or-less Anglican"? What a powerful ringing endorsement of the Church!
And from all that, you manage to contort it into a conclusion that "faith has had a strong influence in his life" - words he never actually said?
Tass - the ONLY reason you're going to bat for Buttigieg is because he's a practicing homosexual who, even though he claims he'd never question somebody else's faith, is in fact attacking Pence's faith.
You hate Pence and what he stands for, so you and your anti-Christian bigot associates found a homosexual who is attacking Pence's faith, and you're doing everything possible to dress up Buttigieg as the "real Christian".
That, sir, is what this is all about.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostTass, it's really been amusing how hard you're working to turn Buttigieg into a "practicing Christian".
You begin by claiming he "interprets scripture differently" than we do - yet you have no evidence for that whatsoever. He never claims to 'interpret' that scripture at all.
You then work to deny that you ever made such a claim, while it's there in black and white numerous times.
You move from "practicing Christian" to his very OWN definition of "practicing Christian", which you define yourself.
You do your word-hyping - putting words in Buttigieg's mouth he never said, like claiming that he said his "faith has had a strong influence in his life" when the actual quote you cite is much less affirming. Your actual quote was "I found myself going to services at Christ Church, which happened to be across from my college, Pembroke, at Oxford and found in that very simple liturgy a way to begin to organize my spirituality. So that by the time I came back to the US I felt like I was more-or-less Anglican"
He "found himself going to services"? Yeah, that's really strong faith!
"which happened to be across from my college" He worked hard to seek out the right church.
"very simple liturgy a way to begin to organize my spirituality"? Just began to? Never quite got there?
"I felt like I was more-or-less Anglican"? What a powerful ringing endorsement of the Church!
And from all that, you manage to contort it into a conclusion that "faith has had a strong influence in his life" - words he never actually said?
Tass - the ONLY reason you're going to bat for Buttigieg is because he's a practicing homosexual who, even though he claims he'd never question somebody else's faith, is in fact attacking Pence's faith.
You hate Pence and what he stands for, so you and your anti-Christian bigot associates found a homosexual who is attacking Pence's faith, and you're doing everything possible to dress up Buttigieg as the "real Christian".
That, sir, is what this is all about.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThere are many christians who believe differently about the teachings as elicited in the bible, but so long as they believe in Jesus as god and savior, they are christians, CP.
And I'd hardly trust you to be the subject matter expert on something you so frequently mock, and in such an ignorant and illiterate manner.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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