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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWith Trump as the hero of the right... you might want to remember the adage about people in glass houses?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou're doing that really broad brush thing again. Trump is, in no way, "my hero", nor is he necessarily "the hero" of "the right".
With Trump as the hero of so many on the right (most notably his "base")...and regularly defended by you (MM), you might want to remember the adage about people in glass houses?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhich goes to show how hard up they are for "heroes".Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou're right. My bad. It should have said:
With Trump as the hero of so many on the right (most notably his "base")...and regularly defended by you (MM), you might want to remember the adage about people in glass houses?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostTrump is certainly not my hero, but I'll defend anyone who I think is being given an unfair shake; for him, that's more or less constant.
And he should be loving the attention, if he's consistent. After all, his stated philosophy is, "there's no such thing as bad publicity - just publicity." Well - he's certainly getting a lot of it!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOn that we are not going to agree. Trump is being called out for each and every thing he says and does.
Of course you're not going to agree. Your mind's been infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome so badly that you think it's normal.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostFixed that for you, no charge.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOf course you're not going to agree. Your mind's been infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome so badly that you think it's normal.
You don't really think "TDS" is actually a meaningful argument, do you?Last edited by carpedm9587; 02-06-2019, 05:01 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOn that we are not going to agree. Trump is being called out for each and every BS thing he says and does....
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAll you did was twist my words so they would say what you wanted them to say... which is not a fix. It's just dishonest. IMO, it's a cheap tactic and a childish way to engage. I'm sure that opinion will impress you bigly...
Yeah... and then before that was ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome), and CDS (Clinton Derangement Syndrome), and BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome), and even THS (Trump Heroworship Syndrome), and all of the other ways that people just label someone they disagree with and then summarily dismiss their opinion. It's a story old as sentience...
You don't really think "TDS" is actually a meaningful argument, do you?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOn that we are not going to agree. Trump is being called out for each and every BS thing he says and does. I have no problem with it. I encourage it. No leader of his poor caliber should be given a pass. He's a liar and a hypocrite. "Set aside the politics of revenge?" My backside. He thrives on the politics of revenge and has practiced them from the start of his campaign - not to mention his career. And his "base" applauds him for it. Regularly. It's "refreshing" they say. But then he calls for everyone else to "play nice?" What a crock...
And he should be loving the attention, if he's consistent. After all, his stated philosophy is, "there's no such thing as bad publicity - just publicity." Well - he's certainly getting a lot of it!"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI changed them to more accurately reflect the truth.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI've long ago given up any idea that I might impress you with something or change your mind.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostAre we done pontificating about not caring what the other thinks, now?
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou might have a point if 1) TDS was anything like the level of the others AND 2) if I was actually using it as some sort of dismissive label. I'm not. I think it is dead on accurate (oh, and 3) if I was using it as some sort of argument, which I'm not).
And I think I agree with you - this discussion is pointless. Last word to you.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostGetting revenge against your political enemies has been part of politics since humans built the first empires.
It will be interesting to see if he leads by example. I'm thinking a) he won't, and b) he (and his base) will blame it on someone else.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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