Breaking news ... Walls do work

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes, and now she and her ilk are absolutely positively dead set on any kind of wall, declaring it IMMORAL. Why? Because she hates Trump as much as you do, so logic and reason fly right out the window.

[Cow Poke]

Or both.

[lilpixieofterror]

Or both.

The one thing Trump has done is let us see the actual desires of the establishment of each party.

[Cow Poke]

The one thing Trump has done is let us see the actual desires of the establishment of each party.

Funny you should mention that. Bill Bennett wrote a very interesting article along those lines. He must have been reading your mind.





And specifically on the wall...



So, yeah, those libs were were FOR the wall before they were AGAINST the wall are simply throwing logic out the window to "stick it to Trump".

[lilpixieofterror]

Funny you should mention that. Bill Bennett wrote a very interesting article along those lines. He must have been reading your mind.





And specifically on the wall...



So, yeah, those libs were were FOR the wall before they were AGAINST the wall are simply throwing logic out the window to "stick it to Trump".

[Cow Poke]

I just hope they continue with the very aggressive overreach. Maybe the moderates will wake up and realize, like my Dad did a couple decades ago, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party - they left me!"

[Tassman]

Yes, and now she and her ilk are absolutely positively dead set on any kind of wall, declaring it IMMORAL. Why? Because she hates Trump as much as you do, so logic and reason fly right out the window.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...r-wall-1139308

[Cow Poke]

No, they are not.

Yes, they are.

[Cow Poke]

Ya know, I can't figure.... are you that big of a liar, or do you just have all your screws loose?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is asked whether Democrats would be willing to put "even a dollar" toward funding a border wall. Pelosi laughingly said she would give "one dollar."

"Is there a situation in which you would accept even a dollar of wall-funding for this president in order to reopen the government?" CNN's Manu Raju asked the Speaker.

"A dollar? A dollar?" she asked. "One dollar."

"A wall is an immorality. It's not who we are," she said.

source

Yeah, that really sounds like "open to discussion". Maybe in DramaQueenLand.

[Cow Poke]

"There is not going to be any wall money in the legislation," Pelosi said.

[Sparko]

No they supported a wall. But you realize all that "smart technology" will cost MORE than just putting up a wall, right? Because you still have to have a wall supplemented with "smart technology" like sensors and cameras. Just having "smart technology" without a barrier would be useless. By the time they responded to the alarm, the illegals would be hiding in the desert on the wrong side of the border.

[Cow Poke]

No they supported a wall. But you realize all that "smart technology" will cost MORE than just putting up a wall, right? Because you still have to have a wall supplemented with "smart technology" like sensors and cameras. Just having "smart technology" without a barrier would be useless. By the time they responded to the alarm, the illegals would be hiding in the desert on the wrong side of the border.

I don't think Tassman has a clue what the border looks like, and how easy it is for illegals to simply disappear into the landscape once they get across the border. According to my friends at Anadarko, a common practice is to have "legals" serving as decoys, drawing the attention of border patrol agents while the illegals get away. There's no law against 'legals' going for a nice run in the woods/desert/wilderness, and there's no "smart technology" that can identify the legals from the illegals.

[Joel]

I'm no Democrat, but this is a main concern I have. The above information suggests that crossings shift to where they are easiest, which makes sense. It doesn't imply that total crossings decreased. I recall seeing a challenge where a section of wall was built to the specifications of G. W. Bush's wall proposal, and people were challenged to get past it, whether digging under, cutting through, or climbing over. And in each case they got past the wall in about 2 minutes. (And then subsequent people could be even faster if it has already been dug under or cut through.) It seems not worth spending billions to merely delay people by a couple minutes.

[Joel]

Have you ever cut through a piece of steel, with a hack saw?

I cut through a small steel bar with a hack saw just last week, for a project I'm working on. It was much faster going than I had imagined that it would be.

[Cow Poke]

I'm no Democrat, but this is a main concern I have. The above information suggests that crossings shift to where they are easiest, which makes sense. It doesn't imply that total crossings decreased. I recall seeing a challenge where a section of wall was built to the specifications of G. W. Bush's wall proposal, and people were challenged to get past it, whether digging under, cutting through, or climbing over. And in each case they got past the wall in about 2 minutes. (And then subsequent people could be even faster if it has already been dug under or cut through.) It seems not worth spending billions to merely delay people by a couple minutes.

And I wish Trump would give some specifics, because I don't really know what kind of wall or barrier he's proposing. It would be assumed, however, that wherever the wall is breached, the associated technology would alert the border patrol, and that breach would not remain open.