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A Question of Respect?
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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThe title is a question, CP - not a statement. It says, "Is this face-off about respect?"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's the title of the thread, remember?
How bout the other part....
Ah, OK, so to what do you attribute your reluctance to call him what he is?
I'm not exactly sure what it is that I need to say to satisfy you... what would you like me to call him? A hack?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPlease tell me, and use your "I'm HONEST" face ---- it was not a question of the kid respecting the Native American. How else does your OP make sense?
I guess I'm still not sure what the problem is...?Last edited by carpedm9587; 01-24-2019, 05:42 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostHe is an activist. He has apparently lied about his military service. He is Native American. He doesn't appear to be a very pleasant person. It's not clear that he bathes regularly. I don't have the impression he is very educated or articulate.
I'm not exactly sure what it is that I need to say to satisfy you... what would you like me to call him? A hack?
And let me tell you, that young man showed great restraint after having that drum beaten in his face for so long. I would have taken the drum and broken it over Phillip's head.
So, who showed more disrespect? Not the young man.
This whole thing is absolutely outrageous, blown out of proportion by the media and the left.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYes - it was. The initial video looked very much like a young man disrespecting an older man.
Frankly, it still does.
Hence the question - to raise the discussion. Which it apparently has. My initial impression, frankly, was that this was a young Trump supporter flexing his anti-immigration attitude.
As more information came out, however, that initial impression was shown to be most likely wrong.
At this point, I'm not really sure what his motivation was. I know what he says it was, and I know what Phillips says it was. That's about it.
I guess I'm still not sure what the problem is...?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostHe is an activist. He has apparently lied about his military service.
He is Native American.
He doesn't appear to be a very pleasant person. It's not clear that he bathes regularly. I don't have the impression he is very educated or articulate.
I'm not exactly sure what it is that I need to say to satisfy you... what would you like me to call him? A hack?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostCall him a big fat liar, just like you call Trump.
Originally posted by mossrose View PostAnd let me tell you, that young man showed great restraint after having that drum beaten in his face for so long. I would have taken the drum and broken it over Phillip's head.
So, who showed more disrespect? Not the young man.
Originally posted by mossrose View PostThis whole thing is absolutely outrageous, blown out of proportion by the media and the left.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostTrump is an admitted, chronic, provable liar. So far I have found that Phillips has been misleading/deceptive about one thing - his military service.
You simply can't say that because he's a Native American.
If the roles were reversed --- if it had been a WHITE MAN advancing in a menacing manner on an AMERICAN INDIAN, you'd see this completely differently.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBefore we knew "the rest of the story".
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBecause he didn't turn tail and run from the lying activist who got right up his personal space?
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd that was exactly the intent of the video, and you got snookered.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMOST LIKELY?!?!?! Sheeeesh, Carpe, you're like a Scientologist who signed over his life and just can't bring himself to admit he got SNOOKERED.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI could tell you, but I'm going to be kind.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWell, from my perspective the jury is still out.
*in a Carpeian kind of way, which means I'll be back again and again.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostHey - I'm a dad. I know a smirk when I see one.
To be fair, I thought it was smirk at first, too, but after learning more about the incident and seeing the video, what I see now is an uncomfortable smile. Frankly, he showed far more restraint than I would have at his age.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo - it's a FACT -- you can watch the video of the guy sitting there lying his teeth out.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd I think this might be why you simply can't admit he's a liar.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNaw, you can keep doing your kabuki dance.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHe FLAT OUT LIED.... multiple times... and when he didn't actually say the words, he purposely gave the impression --- his WHOLE ADULT LIFE. The man is a LIAR. His LIFE is a LIE, and he capitalizes on that with his political activism.
However, if you have multiple times" that he called himself a "Vietnam Vet," I would like to see those.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou simply can't say that because he's a Native American.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIf the roles were reversed --- if it had been a WHITE MAN advancing in a menacing manner on an AMERICAN INDIAN, you'd see this completely differently.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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