I just want to be clear thatb you agree that sexual attraction to children is not a disorder and perfectly normal. And I suspect that you have no problem with bestiality either.
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So what is this toxic masculinity thing anyhow?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYour question betrays your ignorance. 'Mental disorders' are inextricably tied to behavior. A 'mental disorder' is a major disturbance or distress in thinking, feelings and behavior resulting in unacceptable behavior or disability or harm being caused in social situations or in the workplace. If they do not cause personal distress or disability and are not acted upon, they cannot be appropriately referred to as a mental disorder.
I can't believe you are even defending this. You don't think someone desiring and fantasizing about raping children has a mental disorder? You think that is perfectly normal? You are going with this?
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Originally posted by seer View PostOf course Tass, we all have the psychological disorder called sin.And who cares what psychologists say?
Its not like it is science. After all sexual attraction to children was once considered a disorder by them, then just like that it wasn't. Gender dysphoria too was once consider a disorder, then it wasn't, same with homosexuality.
They seem to change with the political winds.Last edited by Tassman; 04-01-2019, 11:58 PM.
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I was talking to a fellow Christian, not you.
People who need guidance and help and professional expertise in adjusting to life and overcoming trauma care very much.
Psychiatry no longer considers lesbian, gay and bisexual orientations disorders, because extensive research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Individuals, including pedophiles (provided they don't act upon their urges), are not considered mentally disordered if they can effectively adjust to the community and demonstrate no generalized impairment in social behavior.
You mean like the Southern Baptist Convention changing attitudes towards slavery or abortion.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Let's see... I am discussing what the term "normal" means, and you go off about legal rights. And I am the one burning straw?? As I said, you're a complete idiot.
In so doing you are excluding every normal variation within the human condition including homosexuality, those with chronic medical conditions and those with minority characteristics such as red hair.That's what
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Originally posted by Tassman View Postnever in a position to provide informed consent, hence it is NEVER acceptable to act upon pedophile urges.
And if a homosexual is still a homosexual even if he doesn't act on it, then a pedophile is still a pedophile even if he doesn't act on it. Therefore the mental condition is not based on behavior at all. If someone fantasizes about raping children, they are mentally ill (or just plain evil as Oxmixx has suggested) whether or not they act on it. The only thing they have not done yet is actually break the law. There is no law against fantasizing, but there is upon behavior. The mental disorder is still there in both cases.
An alcoholic who never takes a drink is still an alcoholic and still has the addiction.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostLet's see... I am discussing what the term "normal" means, and you go off about legal rights. And I am the one burning straw??
That they are "variations" by default makes them not normal. That's what abnormal means.
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Originally posted by seer View PostI was talking to a fellow Christian, not you.Yes, pretty useless. Just load people up with psychotropic meds...That is an arbitrary distinction. What is wrong with acting on your urges?Homosexuals can act on their urges with it being a pathology. Pedophilia, has a long history of acceptance in various cultures.
Southern Baptist don't speak for all Christian, I'm a New England Congregationalist, and we were pretty much against slavery from the get go, ask John Brown who was baptized in my Church.
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Remember Tass I spent ten years in the mental health field, and there are plenty of studies showing the positive effect of prayer on mental health. So you got nothing Tass.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/new-st...mental-health/
And how is that not arbitrary as compared to older or different cultures?
Homosexuality is not a pathology. Extensive research has found no inherent association between homosexual sexual orientations and psychopathology. Anti-homosexuality derives from a nomadic Bronze Age religion and has not been found throughout most of human history outside of the Abrahamic religions.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhy are you discussing what the term "normal" means?
Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation and encompass many facets of human behavior, condition and ideation, including hair color and sexual orientation..That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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