The point Chuck is missing is that one can read that passage the way he wants only if we ignore the context. Verse 21 telling Christians to submit to one another soundly refutes any notion that wives are to be subservient.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe point Chuck is missing is that one can read that passage the way he wants only if we ignore the context. Verse 21 telling Christians to submit to one another soundly refutes any notion that wives are to be subservient.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post....soundly refutes any notion that wives are to be subservient.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI'm not sure why moral relativists would have a problem with submission of women to men, after all that is what we find with our closest primate cousins. It seems to be genetic...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe point Chuck is missing is that one can read that passage the way he wants only if we ignore the context. Verse 21 telling Christians to submit to one another soundly refutes any notion that wives are to be subservient.
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSeems you are the one ignoring context.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd since Tassman has already declared "I think we can agree that young children and babies fare better with their mothers", he appears to believe women are special. But he has a walleyed conniption because some of us want to TREAT them special. It has to be SO confusing to be a liberal.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostLeftist men are not gentlemen.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYet you have not made any comments on my point as to why the commentary did not really work. Just claiming it does so when I have given reasons as to why it does not seems a little weak.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostLeftist men are not gentlemen.That's what
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've actually pointed you to the OVERALL CONTEXT of the matter, which you choose to ignore. You can argue all you want over commentary - the real issue is the Word of God.
And you still have no comment on the commentary and my points against it. Trying to change subject with your "the real issue is the Word of God" statement? It is rather telling that you simply cannot adress the point. Interesting.
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostAnd yet, as you of course know it goes on to say:
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.Last edited by Mountain Man; 02-17-2019, 02:13 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI have not ignored the OVERALL CONTEXT.
What you seem to miss is that the overall context is made up of the parts it exists of.
It is a litte too convenient to just ignore the parts you don't like by pointing to context.
It makes me wonder why those words were even there if they are not meant to say anything along the lines of what they mean in everyday use of the words.
And you still have no comment on the commentary and my points against it.
Trying to change subject with your "the real issue is the Word of God" statement?
It is rather telling that you simply cannot adress the point. Interesting.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostTry seeing the verses you ripped out of context in the context of the entire subject matter - all of Chapter 5.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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