This is interesting because historically clones of the US system of government in other countries collapsed due to ongoing governmental gridlock being eventually broken by the Executive branch seizing authoritarian power (generally with the support of the populace who was sick of the gridlock). However Trump is not popular and his goal of funding the wall isn't all that popular either. And he and his team aren't competent enough to pull off any sort of dictatorial coup. A more likely consequence in this case of serious executive authoritarianism would probably just be fast-track impeachment.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThis is interesting because historically clones of the US system of government in other countries collapsed due to ongoing governmental gridlock being eventually broken by the Executive branch seizing authoritarian power (generally with the support of the populace who was sick of the gridlock). However Trump is not popular and his goal of funding the wall isn't all that popular either. And he and his team aren't competent enough to pull off any sort of dictatorial coup. A more likely consequence in this case of serious executive authoritarianism would probably just be fast-track impeachment.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYours is a rare point of view around here, Cath. I have to admit I find it somewhat refreshing.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhen the barbarians are literally at the gate, it's a lot easier to make the case for a national emergency than it is for a persistent social issue that his been a part of society since almost the beginning of human history."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThis is interesting because historically clones of the US system of government in other countries collapsed due to ongoing governmental gridlock being eventually broken by the Executive branch seizing authoritarian power (generally with the support of the populace who was sick of the gridlock). However Trump is not popular and his goal of funding the wall isn't all that popular either. And he and his team aren't competent enough to pull off any sort of dictatorial coup. A more likely consequence in this case of serious executive authoritarianism would probably just be fast-track impeachment."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostLet's first see if he actually "does an Obama" before we start criticizing him for doing so. That's fair wouldn't you say?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou're so transparent, carpe.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt sets a worrying precedent as "national emergency" would begin to evolve into anything and everything, though it would probably just be the logical next step in the gradual increase of power of the executive branch over the last half century.
The immigration/drug system is a problem, but if you're fine with declaring this as a national emergency to allocate resources over Congress"s heads, what about another president declaring, say, poverty, a national emergency and dramatically ramping up welfare?
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The US isn't unique in what its political system has to do. Don't be an idiot.
I'm reminded of Sarah Hucksterbee's crazed claim that made international news today: Valuing life is 'what sets America apart from every other country'. I don't know if Americans fully understand that people in other countries get the news and so can see the moronic things said by Americans in public, and the extent to which this sort of crazy brings the US into disrepute internationally."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhen the barbarians are literally at the gate, it's a lot easier to make the case for a national emergency than it is for a persistent social issue that his been a part of society since almost the beginning of human history.Last edited by Tassman; 01-07-2019, 02:05 AM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLook at how the left viciously tore into Mitt Romney, who is probably the most milquetoast candidate for president we've seen in the past couple of decades. When it comes to politics, nice guys always finish last.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe same with both Bushs. After the elder one died in late November they acted like he was someone they respected and admired and grumbled why couldn't Trump be more like him but when he was in office they savaged him day in and day out.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe US isn't unique in what its political system has to do. Don't be an idiot.I'm reminded of Sarah Hucksterbee's crazed claim that made international news today: Valuing life is 'what sets America apart from every other country'. I don't know if Americans fully understand that people in other countries get the news and so can see the moronic things said by Americans in public, and the extent to which this sort of crazy brings the US into disrepute internationally."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
When you find yourself with pests in your homes (insects, rodents, etc.), you don't solve the problem simply by putting up barriers. Amazingly, the barriers are almost always breached. You also solve the problem by making sure that food and garbage is not left laying around, and doing everything else you can to reduce the attraction. You can also help the problem by putting those "attractants" far away from the house.
A barrier is one tool. It is not the solution.
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