National Emergency

[carpedm9587]

And you make it seem like it's all on me that I say something about it, when you just can't let it go.

Like here....

So this "I'd prefer to return to the original discussion" is AFTER you keep it going and "carry on" about your intentions.

Yes - I am guilty of spending too much time trying to explain myself. It's a trap I need to be better about keeping clear of and just let people say what they will. I'll work on it.

[Cow Poke]

Yes - I am guilty of spending too much time trying to explain myself. It's a trap I need to be better about keeping clear of and just let people say what they will. I'll work on it.

Work on what?

[carpedm9587]

Work on what?

Letting people have their opinions about me and leaving them unresponded to.

[Mountain Man]

CNN's Jim Acosta scores an own-goal with a report near part of our secure border where he says, "Nope, there's no national emergency here."

Yeah, Jim, that's kinda the point.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...e-theres-wall/

[Mountain Man]

Sarah Sanders: "When I went with President @realDonaldTrump to the border today I never imagined @Acosta would be there doing our job for us and so clearly explaining why WALLS WORK. Thanks Jim!"

[Cow Poke]

Letting people have their opinions about me and leaving them unresponded to.

I know. Just wanted to respond.

[Cow Poke]

Sarah Sanders: "When I went with President @realDonaldTrump to the border today I never imagined @Acosta would be there doing our job for us and so clearly explaining why WALLS WORK. Thanks Jim!"

And Acosta is going back to his producer asking "what did I say?"

[Mountain Man]

And Acosta is going back to his producer asking "what did I say?"

"Wait, let me go back and do it again! I'll get it right this time!"

[carpedm9587]

I know. Just wanted to respond.

OK....

[Cow Poke]

San Diego TV station: CNN declined our 'local view' because of reports on wall effectiveness

[carpedm9587]

San Diego TV station: CNN declined our 'local view' because of reports on wall effectiveness

This does not surprise me: CNN is about as strongly left and Fox is strongly right - so they should be given about as much credence.

For the record - I have never questioned that a barrier is needed - strategically. Barriers DO have an effect. However, I have strongly questioned the list of problems Trump says the barriers will solve - and I have strongly questioned the type of barrier he feels needs to be built - and I have strongly questioned the lack of any specifics about priorities for where and when the various segments need to be built.

It is clear, as more and more wall is built, attempts to penetrate the border will continually shift to locations without a barrier, requiring continual addition to the barrier until, effectively, the entire border will have some form of access control. Unfortunately, because the Rio Grande runs a significant length of the border - it introduces some significant problems. The barrier may not always be a concrete wall (there is little justification for this) or a metal fence. The "barrier" in some areas may well have to be technological in order to be effective.

But even if we do end up with a barrier the entire length of the border - it will not stop illegal immigration to the U.S. The data suggests it will stop about half of it. Other steps need to be taken to deal with the other half - because more than half of the illegal immigrants in our country are here due to overstaying valid visas.

[Sparko]

I think a wall would be effective in lowering the number of illegal crossings. It won't stop them. I also think the argument that "most illegals come in through visas and overstay" to be a bad argument.
Those who do the visas and use planes are most likely from other countries like Europe, not Mexico. The highest number I have seen is 40% so that would mean a border wall would help stop 60% or around half. That is still a good goal. Also, those who get in through visas have to get background checked and such to get a visa and are not very likely to be the criminal type which is what is most important to stop.

[Mountain Man]

A competent wall system can't not be effective to some degree. That's just the nature of the structure. Which leads me to believe that the real reason liberals oppose the wall is because they know it will work.

[Sparko]

A competent wall system can't not be effective to some degree. That's just the nature of the structure. Which leads me to believe that the real reason liberals oppose the wall is because they know it will work.

Not really. They used to be for a wall. The real reason is that conservatives want it. If Trump promised to "tear down that wall" in California (where liberals already HAVE a wall along the border) they would have screamed that Trump was endangering their children by letting criminals cross the border freely.

[Sparko]

By the way, this is a great site that lets you see what fences and barriers we already have along the border.

https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall...ve-border-map/

California, the most liberal state, seems to have the most complete pedestrian barrier (the slats) than any other place along the border.