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Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send mails about government business

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  • #76
    Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Bill, after advising her father in an unofficial capacity, Ivanka was appointed "Advisor to the President," and made a government employee, on March 29, 2017 - about 2 months after he took office.
    And apparently, the "official business" emails were from before this appointment.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Because Ivanka naively emailed a schedule to a nanny.
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...vate-email-use

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      • #78
        Government business. As in family schedules.

        Hillary was Secretary of State who trafficked classified information through a secret unsecured private server that her training would have informed her was illegal. She even instructed her aides on how to "scrub" the emails of certain classification markings so they would get past automatic filters.
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        Than a fool in the eyes of God


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        • #79
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Government business. As in family schedules.


          Hillary was Secretary of State who trafficked classified information through a secret unsecured private server that her training would have informed her was illegal. She even instructed her aides on how to "scrub" the emails of certain classification markings so they would get past automatic filters.
          And let's not forget that she coached members of her staff on how to send classified information through her private server so she knew full well what she was doing was wrong.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            And let's not forget that she coached members of her staff on how to send classified information through her private server so she knew full well what she was doing was wrong.
            So what? She's a Democrat. You got something against Democrats?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #81
              It's from Breitbart, so it can't possibly be true, right?

              But, just for the sake of argument, there's this...






              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #82
                That's just whataboutism, Tass.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Ivanka did not know she was doing anything wrong. Hillary did.
                  Seriously?

                  Half the country, including Ivanka's family, spent a year focusing on the fact that you're not allowed to use personal email accounts to conduct government business. Ivanka wasn't living in a cave on Mars during election year, so she knew.

                  Hillary is well-known to be severely technologically challenged. She'd taken so long to learn to use one email account on one device (for her work with the Clinton Foundation that used the Clinton Foundation email server) that she refused to try and learn to swap between accounts or use a second device. She's an old person who barely understands email, not some technological mastermind hacking the system.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Seriously?

                    Half the country, including Ivanka's family, spent a year focusing on the fact that you're not allowed to use personal email accounts to conduct government business. Ivanka wasn't living in a cave on Mars during election year, so she knew.

                    Hillary is well-known to be severely technologically challenged. She'd taken so long to learn to use one email account on one device (for her work with the Clinton Foundation that used the Clinton Foundation email server) that she refused to try and learn to swap between accounts or use a second device. She's an old person who barely understands email, not some technological mastermind hacking the system.
                    but that's not what we learned. You can use personal email accounts in government business. If it is done correctly and not used to send classified information.
                    If you recall Colin Powell also used a private email address and Hillary tried to use him as an excuse for herself.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Seriously?
                      I haven't looked into this in any detail, Star - I simply posted the article for discussion.

                      Half the country, including Ivanka's family, spent a year focusing on the fact that you're not allowed to use personal email accounts to conduct government business. Ivanka wasn't living in a cave on Mars during election year, so she knew.
                      You don't see a teesie weensie bit of difference between a SENIOR LEVEL CAREER POLITICIAN and an unpaid advisor?

                      Hillary is well-known to be severely technologically challenged.
                      I'm aware that's the role she played - I'm not convinced she knows more than she lets on.

                      She'd taken so long to learn to use one email account on one device (for her work with the Clinton Foundation that used the Clinton Foundation email server) that she refused to try and learn to swap between accounts or use a second device. She's an old person who barely understands email, not some technological mastermind hacking the system.
                      You just made the case why she should never even be considered to be POTUS --- to sum up your statement - she's a dinosaur who is too old to get with the times, and refuses to do so.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        but that's not what we learned. You can use personal email accounts in government business.
                        Eh? That's not my understanding. What I took from the saga was that using a personal email account to conduct any govt business wasn't allowed.

                        If you recall Colin Powell also used a private email address and Hillary tried to use him as an excuse for herself.
                        Yes, because Powell's use of a private email address to conduct government business wasn't allowed. The main difference being that Colin Powell was an early-adopter and the government bureaucrats hadn't yet banned the practice quite so thoroughly in Powell's day.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Eh? That's not my understanding. What I took from the saga was that using a personal email account to conduct any govt business wasn't allowed.
                          What makes it potentially criminal is the passing of classified information on non-secure servers, and a practice of changing the headings to thwart the classification system, both of which Clinton did.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            a practice of changing the headings to thwart the classification system, both of which Clinton did.
                            This claim is news to me, despite me following the controversy very closely throughout, so I suspect it isn't true. Can you link me to a mainstream source that documents this?
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              This claim is news to me, despite me following the controversy very closely throughout, so I suspect it isn't true. Can you link me to a mainstream source that documents this?
                              This is one of those things that people from polar opposite views are going to argue for ages - Comey pretty much laid out a solid case for indictment, then concluded with his infamous "no reasonable prosecutor...." summary.

                              Up to that point, even some of her faithful were thinking "she's going to jail".

                              The rules that Clinton violated did not require "intent", despite Comey's claim.

                              Here's a summary with which you can aggressively disagree.

                              Now We Know: FBI Ignored Lawbreaking To Exonerate Hillary Clinton

                              and another...

                              Eight Laws Hillary Clinton Could Be Indicted For Breaking

                              And we can both find plenty of sources disputing these and others.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #90
                                What I'm after is evidence for your claim that there was "a practice of changing the headings to thwart the classification system". Preferable from a mainstream source. I don't see anything in either link with regard to that claim.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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