Clapper: Russia swung the election

[Sparko]

They are providing false information to try to persuade people to vote in ways that are advantageous to their interests. And they are providing false information they believe will cause division and turmoil in our democracy. And all Americans SHOULD be against that. It is incredibly disappointing to see people so devoted to one man that they are willing to diminish or even deny the seriousness of this sort of attack on our democracy.



Jim

What false information did they provide?

Everything that caused Americans to vote against Hillary was her own doing. The Russians didn't make her use a private email server, or try to cover it up, or lie about it, or smash phones. Or cause the DNC to cheat Sanders out of a nomination. Or pay for false documents to use against Trump.

[Cow Poke]

When watching WWII movies, the Germans see Americans as the "baddies". Are you German, ff?

[rogue06]

When watching WWII movies, the Germans see Americans as the "baddies". Are you German, ff?

[Sparko]

Evidence?

[firstfloor]

When watching WWII movies, the Germans see Americans as the "baddies". Are you German, ff?

[Cow Poke]

No, not German.

I was kidding, of course.

CP, I know you want to be a goodie

My wife says I am, so that's all that matters.

[One Bad Pig]

I was kidding, of course.



My wife says I am, so that's all that matters.

What's Jake - chopped liver?

[Cow Poke]

What's Jake - chopped liver?

Ya know, you have a point! Not that this is so very unusual...

[Charles]

Pointing out that you make a claim without providing appropriate evidence is certainly not nitpicking. You made the claim this was al on Hillary. Where is your evidence that people were only influenced by news? That the Russians did not promote it or distort the truth in some cases. You take the story you like the most and claim it is facts. Where is your evidence? Where have you been? Raking the forrest?

[Mountain Man]

Pointing out that you make a claim without providing appropriate evidence is certainly not nitpicking. You made the claim this was al on Hillary. Where is your evidence that people were only influenced by news? That the Russians did not promote it or distort the truth in some cases. You take the story you like the most and claim it is facts. Where is your evidence? Where have you been? Raking the forrest?

Funny how you don't demand the same level of evidence from Clapper that Russia swung the election.

[Bill the Cat]

So, in your opinion, the "baddies" should not have the right to vote?

[Cow Poke]

So, in your opinion, the "baddies" should not have the right to vote?

And the "goodies" get to decide who the "baddies" are.

[Sparko]

Pointing out that you make a claim without providing appropriate evidence is certainly not nitpicking. You made the claim this was al on Hillary. Where is your evidence that people were only influenced by news? That the Russians did not promote it or distort the truth in some cases. You take the story you like the most and claim it is facts. Where is your evidence? Where have you been? Raking the forrest?

[Charles]

Funny how you don't demand the same level of evidence from Clapper that Russia swung the election.

He does not make the same type of claim. He does not claim there is one single thing that explains everything. His point is simply that when such a massive effort was made and so few voters made the difference it is highly likely things would be different had the effort not been made. A point you are yet to adress with something more than whistling, whataboutism and that kind of stuff. Looking forward.

[Mountain Man]

He does not make the same type of claim. He does not claim there is one single thing that explains everything. His point is simply that when such a massive effort was made and so few voters made the difference it is highly likely things would be different had the effort not been made. A point you are yet to adress with something more than whistling, whataboutism and that kind of stuff. Looking forward.

In other words, you're willing to accept his bald assertion because it fits your narrative.

Got it.