Acosta's white house pass removed ..

[lilpixieofterror]

Again - I know of no "wave" phenomenon that is measured against the mean. If you can think of one, I'm all ears...

[Sparko]

come on guys! Let JimL bask in thinking a blue tsunami washed over the country. What's the harm? Don't ruin his delusion. He probably subscribes to the https://www.hillarybeattrump.org/ website anyway.

[carpedm9587]

We saw an midterm election with massive turnout (close to record setting), and a significant swing to the left across the board. Some were slightly above average, some slightly below, some significantly above. And we saw all of that in the face of the significant gerrymandering of Operation Red Map. All in all, what we had was a modest blue wave - less than hoped for, more than average, with some significant specific shifts that bode very well for 2020 (e.g., the three states that Trump won by less than 100,000 votes to put him over the electoral top in 2016 all elected Democratic governors, lieutenant governors, and U.S. senators). And both Colorado and Arizona has shifted significantly to the left as well. Trump could win every state he won in 2016, but without these states he doesn't have a prayer.

[lilpixieofterror]

We saw an midterm election with massive turnout (close to record setting), and a significant swing to the left across the board. Some were slightly above average, some slightly below, some significantly above. And we saw all of that in the face of the significant gerrymandering of Operation Red Map. All in all, what we had was a modest blue wave - less than hoped for, more than average, with some significant specific shifts that bode very well for 2020 (e.g., the three states that Trump won by less than 100,000 votes to put him over the electoral top in 2016 all elected Democratic governors, lieutenant governors, and U.S. senators). And both Colorado and Arizona has shifted significantly to the left as well. Trump could win every state he won in 2016, but without these states he doesn't have a prayer.

[carpedm9587]

I don't believe I said "necessarily" anywhere. I said the signs were encouraging. There is clearly a shift to the left in three states that (barely) gave Trump the election in 2016. So the signs are encouraging - especially when you also factor in the state house/senate shifts.

As for Rogue's numbers, I think I have noted several times, and used data as well, that the shift in the house was slightly or moderately above averages - depending on which numbers you were using. Coupled with all of the other shifts (governors, lt. governors, state senates, state AGs, state houses, etc.), the wave was at or slightly above what polls were predicting before the election. They were not to the level of the "hype" from some on the left.

[lilpixieofterror]

I don't believe I said "necessarily" anywhere. I said the signs were encouraging. There is clearly a shift to the left in three states that (barely) gave Trump the election in 2016. So the signs are encouraging - especially when you also factor in the state house/senate shifts.

As for Rogue's numbers, I think I have noted several times, and used data as well, that the shift in the house was slightly or moderately above averages - depending on which numbers you were using. Coupled with all of the other shifts (governors, lt. governors, state senates, state AGs, state houses, etc.), the wave was at or slightly above what polls were predicting before the election. They were not to the level of the "hype" from some on the left.

[Mountain Man]

It's over. The White House has agreed to reinstate Acosta's press pass, CNN has agreed to drop the lawsuit.

Buuuuut.... (you knew there was a "but", didn't you?)

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In other words, Acosta is going to find himself out on his butt again if he's not the most well-behaved journalist in Washington DC. Remember, Jim, only one question, and no interruptions or follow-ups! You're not there to debate the President.

[carpedm9587]

I didn't say it did. I said the signs are "hopeful."

A Democrat won in Kansas and Arizona, does this mean the 2020 democrat presidential candidate will win these two states in 2020?

At no point have I ever said "will." I said the signs are positive and encouraging. Arizona I think is more likely than Kansas - but it all depends on the candidates.


You seem to be adding a lot more "certainty" to my posts than I am putting there...

[lilpixieofterror]

I didn't say it did. I said the signs are "hopeful."



At no point have I ever said "will." I said the signs are positive and encouraging. Arizona I think is more likely than Kansas - but it all depends on the candidates.


You seem to be adding a lot more "certainty" to my posts than I am putting there...

[carpedm9587]

I'm hopeful because there is a significant shift to the left. I am hopeful because Trump is losing ground in key states. I am hopeful because the data is showing that people's lives in the "Trump" areas are actually NOT improving overall, so there is hope they will see this by 2020. And I am hopeful because, in general, elections tend to swing collectively in the same direction. So the shift of governorships and other state positions to the left suggests there is a stronger move towards voting to the left. We see that dynamic in most elections. Red states tend to vote red - blue states tend to vote blue, and swing states tend to head in one direction or the other collectively.

You seem to not also address the elephant in the room. Democrats and Republicans seem to be in a bit of a battle with each other about the direction of their respective parties.

Not only with each other (which has always been true) but also internally. I have no idea how that is an "elephant in the room" nor how it in anyway alters anything I've said. The signs right now are hopeful. The signs since 2016 were good for a Democrat resurgence in 2018, and it happened. The signs now are good for continued resurgence in 2020.

[NorrinRadd]

It's over. The White House has agreed to reinstate Acosta's press pass, CNN has agreed to drop the lawsuit.

Buuuuut.... (you knew there was a "but", didn't you?)

""

In other words, Acosta is going to find himself out on his butt again if he's not the most well-behaved journalist in Washington DC. Remember, Jim, only one question, and no interruptions or follow-ups! You're not there to debate the President.

I like the fact that they've put in place rules so as to satisfy the "due process" requirement.

I'd prefer that offenders be "escorted" to a 6'x6' room with a bucket in the corner and kept there for 12 hours.

[Tassman]

In other words, Acosta is going to find himself out on his butt again if he's not the most well-behaved journalist in Washington DC. Remember, Jim, only one question, and no interruptions or follow-ups! You're not there to debate the President.

Acosta is NOT going to find himself out on his butt again, the WH has realised it went too far. The Acosta and CNN's legal battle with Trump was part of a fight about the First Amendment as the court recognized. But this will not be the last time that Trump attempts to exert significant control over the press, albeit not to the extent of the Acosta debacle. Trump resists being questioned and having to account for his decisions...this is a major concern in a democratic nation like the USA. This is what one expects from a dictatorship

[Mountain Man]

The Acosta and CNN's legal battle with Trump was part of a fight about the First Amendment as the court recognized.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...pass-restored/https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...use-reporters/

That's your due process right there, so, yes, Acosta had better behave himself or he'll be out on his butt again.

You still think CNN won?

[Roy]

Again - I know of no "wave" phenomenon that is measured against the mean. If you can think of one, I'm all ears...

Amplitude? Though that's not measured against the mean you mean.

[Cow Poke]

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...pass-restored/https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...use-reporters/

That's your due process right there, so, yes, Acosta had better behave himself or he'll be out on his butt again.

You still think CNN won?

Here's a pretty good assessment of the situation...

Acosta decision could make it easier for White House to kick reporters out

The whole case was not about first amendment rights, but about due process -- and Trump gets to establish the process.