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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFolks often tend to attribute to others the sort of actions that they themselves do. It's like how a thief always expects everyone else to steal.
Seriously? Now I don't care much for pelosi myself, but this was a flagrant example of quote mining by the the conservative news outlets to smear pelosi.
So it's not ok if YECs quote mine, but because it's against Pelosi you'll defend it?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFolks often tend to attribute to others the sort of actions that they themselves do. It's like how a thief always expects everyone else to steal.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View Post
Seriously? Now I don't care much for pelosi myself, but this was a flagrant example of quote mining by the the conservative news outlets to smear pelosi.
So it's not ok if YECs quote mine, but because it's against Pelosi you'll defend it?
JimSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou seem to have missed the point: Pelosi is being blatantly hypocritical, because this is how the left operates. Unless you have examples of the Republican party engaging in this "wrap-up smear"?
It is illegitimate to make a point by taking a person's words out of context and making them mean something it did not mean in context. It is blatant deception.
YECs have for years taken quotes out of context to make points and said they were justified doing it because what they made the quote say was true.
And not once has any non yec here accepted that as a valid justification for quote mining. In fact, it is universally denounced as deception in that context.
And it is blatant deception in this context as well.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI didn't miss the point. That point wasn't my concern. They evidence used to make the point is false. That is my concern.
It is illegitimate to make a point by taking a person's words out of context and making them mean something it did not mean in context. It is blatant deception.
YECs have for years taken quotes out of context to make points and said they were justified doing it because what they made the quote say was true.
And not once has any non yec here accepted that as a valid justification for quote mining. In fact, it is universally denounced as deception in that context.
And it is blatant deception in this context as well.
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View PostOriginally posted by Mountain ManYou seem to have missed the point: Pelosi is being blatantly hypocritical, because this is how the left operates. Unless you have examples of the Republican party engaging in this "wrap-up smear"?
It is illegitimate to make a point by taking a person's words out of context and making them mean something it did not mean in context. It is blatant deception.
YECs have for years taken quotes out of context to make points and said they were justified doing it because what they made the quote say was true.
And not once has any non yec here accepted that as a valid justification for quote mining. In fact, it is universally denounced as deception in that context.
And it is blatant deception in this context as well.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm more incensed by the words following the bolded material than what's emphasized. Why the all caps?
To your first comment: I realize that. And so do the media that deceived you, rogue, mm etc with it. But your ire has been raised falsely. She is talking about a tactic she says the republicans are using. Not a tactic being used by the democrats (the truth or falsity of THAT claim is another debate, a debate that could make legitimate and honest use of the clip). Yet the news outlet took it completely out of context to make you think she was saying this is a tactic the democrats boast about using. So you (and all who reacted to the clip) have been deceived and manipulated by that/those news outlet(s). They have fed your anger and made you all the more hostile towards Democrats using falsified evidence.
That my friend is what really should make you mad.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 10-07-2018, 08:02 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIs this just your long way of conceding that you don't have evidence of the Republican party doing what the Democrat party is guilty of?
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-07-2018, 07:58 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View PostNo MM. And that might be a really good thread or secondary discussion too. But it is not related to the issue I identified which is quote mining/deception by a conservative media outlet. However this diversionary sideline is your way of accepting, even justifying willful deception from a conservative media outlet.
Go look at my quote, and go look at my source. You're chasing a wild goose of your own making.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostC-Span is now a "conservative media outlet"?
Go look at my quote, and go look at my source. You're chasing a wild goose of your own making.
It was not produced by or promoted by c-span.
It is a quote mined video, so my point stands. You echoed it without researching it's context so you are as duped as anyone about it.
Where did you learn about the clip? Who is making it known to people like you?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe first time I heard him speak on the radio, I wondered what the big deal was. And he wasn't struggling to put words together, so presumably that was with a teleprompter.
"Barack Obama is one of the great orators in American history," says Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian and professor at Rice University.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...111-story.html
Obama is the nation's orator-in-chief, and he deserves the title and the accolades.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-union-address
Barack Obama will long stand out among contemporary presidents for the strength of his speeches, especially since he was immediately succeeded by someone with little capacity for matching them.
https://psmag.com/news/the-effective...obamas-oratory
President Obama Was Not Just a Great Giver of Speeches, He Was Our Best.
https://www.vogue.com/article/presid...obama-speeches
There are many more.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Seriously? Now I don't care much for pelosi myself, but this was a flagrant example of quote mining by the the conservative news outlets to smear pelosi.
So it's not ok if YECs quote mine, but because it's against Pelosi you'll defend it?
Jim
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View PostThe clip is a user generated cut of the actual video of the entire conversation.
It was not produced by or promoted by c-span.
It is a quote mined video, so my point stands. You echoed it without researching it's context so you are as duped as anyone about it.
Where did you learn about the clip? Who is making it known to people like you?
Secondly, go look at how the user described the video in question and his ironic observation.
You're barking up the wrong tree as usual, kiddo.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostThere are many more.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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