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The Trump Administration Will Make It Easier To Fire Federal Employees
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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI wasn't happy with Obama's overuse of executive orders, so I can't be happy with Trump's, either.
Though I agree with the thought that the US governmental system gives too much power to the Presidency and that governing by executive orders in general is a bad system."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI wasn't happy with Obama's overuse of executive orders, so I can't be happy with Trump's, either.Last edited by Mountain Man; 05-26-2018, 07:47 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostObama issued the lowest number of executive orders per year of any president in the last century. Most progressive commentators I listen to are quite angry that Obama didn't do more with executive orders.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/06/...ern-president/
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThere is a proper use of executive orders, and there is an improper use. Obama tried to use executive orders as an end-run around Congress and the Constitution to rule by fiat. Trump isn't doing that here. On the contrary, establishing rules for the hiring and firing of government employees is exactly the sort of thing executive orders are to be used for.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
Though I agree with the thought that the US governmental system gives too much power to the Presidency and that governing by executive orders in general is a bad system.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThere is a proper use of executive orders, and there is an improper use. Obama tried to use executive orders as an end-run around Congress and the Constitution to rule by fiat. Trump isn't doing that here. On the contrary, establishing rules for the hiring and firing of government employees is exactly the sort of thing executive orders are to be used for.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThere is a proper use of executive orders, and there is an improper use. Obama tried to use executive orders as an end-run around Congress and the Constitution to rule by fiat. Trump isn't doing that here. On the contrary, establishing rules for the hiring and firing of government employees is exactly the sort of thing executive orders are to be used for.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I support in principle making it easier to fire poor performers but the other orders go too far. The 25 percent rule is going to cripple the union where I work because there are too many grievances not to allow someone to review them part time (as well as forcing the unions to pay rent to exist). I know that is the point, sadly. Having to renegotiate our contract after coming to a deal just two or three months ago is stupid. It frustrates me when good ideas have what strikes me as gratuitous cruelty added on"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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