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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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5-months ago, someone with the shooter's exact same name posted a comment on YouTube saying, "Im going to be a professional school shooter". The owner of the YouTube account reported it to the FBI who later claimed they didn't have enough information to track him down.
Seriously? Go post a comment on YouTube threatening to shoot the President, and see how long it takes the Secret Service to come knocking on your front door. I believe the FBI could have found this kid if they really wanted to, but they apparently didn't take the comment seriously enough.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, that's pretty much my sentiment. I think it's only a matter of time really. I don't desire to see this, but I think eventually a tragedy will come along that will be so catastrophic, or the number of mass shootings will increase so dramatically, and/or leadership will change hands so thoroughly that eventually it'll seem like the only sensible option on the table. there will be lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth, and people will complain for a very long time that the buy back didn't work, but the numbers will eventually reflect it, and life will go on. Or at least, that's my hope.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's worth noting that some of the deadliest cities in America are the ones with the strictest gun laws.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, I know. That's brought up every time this debate resurfaces. I don't find that very impressive though, since all it takes is a short drive out of the city in order to buy a gun legally.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, I know. That's brought up every time this debate resurfaces. I don't find that very impressive though, since all it takes is a short drive out of the city in order to buy a gun legally.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSo then why aren't the areas where firearms are readily accessible the areas where firearm violence is the highest then?
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBut it's not just purchasing that's outlawed - it's the possession of those firearms. Obviously, that doesn't work either.
Maybe we should all just skip to the part where we compare guns to ladders, because ladders kill too. That's typically where this conversation eventually goes.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, that's pretty much my sentiment. I think it's only a matter of time really. I don't desire to see this, but I think eventually a tragedy will come along that will be so catastrophic, or the number of mass shootings will increase so dramatically, and/or leadership will change hands so thoroughly that eventually it'll seem like the only sensible option on the table. there will be lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth, and people will complain for a very long time that the buy back didn't work, but the numbers will eventually reflect it, and life will go on. Or at least, that's my hope.
Disarming innocent people doesn't disarm criminals.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostMaybe we should all just skip to the part where we compare guns to ladders, because ladders kill too. That's typically where this conversation eventually goes.
Seriously, I just think it's naive to think that making guns illegal - or even banning them completely - will prevent those who purpose to do evil from acquiring them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, I know. That's brought up every time this debate resurfaces. I don't find that very impressive though, since all it takes is a short drive out of the city in order to buy a gun legally.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAnd nothing will change. Criminals will still get guns and shoot people.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostOr use some other method to kill people. And law abiding citizens will have no way to protect themselves.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostDisarming innocent people doesn't disarm criminals.
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