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Trump lies and false news breaks all records
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostTrump has told more lies and fake news than any other president. One of the latest whoopers was on global warming.
For a partial list of whoopers see: http://www.politifact.com/personalit.../false/?page=4"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
These articles are hilarious because they list things like differences of opinion, or when the President rounds, say, a dollar figure as a lie. And it's amazing how Politifact will spin and spin until they feel like they can call a factually true statement a lie. It's why I say their slogan should be "Politifact: All politics, no facts."
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostStill no coherent response, but lots of name calling.
Again . . .
The other lies and fake news are worse than this. Do have any reasonable explanation for this atrocious nonsense."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Repeating myself, but...
since you seem enamored with this sort of thing, a 2014 FOX News poll found that 81% of respondents believed that Obama lied about important matters at least some of the time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...t-matters.html
And here's a list of over 1000 of Obama's biggest lies:
https://freedomoutpost.com/1063-docu...isy-waste-etc/
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHow come they never look like that in real life?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]26368[/ATTACH]Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostSource for the bolded, please? All you did was point to something you say is false and then point to other allegedly false statements. Even if you're correct that all are false, that's a long way from actually proving your claim. You can't just point to some false statements (one can do that for any president), you have to prove it's actually more than any previous president.
Still waiting . . .
More to follow because like Pinocchio's nose the list gets longer and longer. I will also refer to more lies and fake news from the list. Like the global warming whooper I see no coherent response to the fact that Trump is habitual liar.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe partial list reference is longer than that of any other president. I see a failure to respond to the Trump quote on global warming.
Still waiting . . .
More to follow because like Pinocchio's nose the list gets longer and longer. I will also refer to more lies and fake news from the list. Like the global warming whooper I see no coherent response to the fact that Trump is habitual liar.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe partial list reference is longer than that of any other president.
First, PolitiFact is noticeably biased in how they rate things, grading conservatives noticeably more harshly than liberals. But even if we grant them as being completely fair in regards to their grading, they don't evaluate every single statement someone makes, thereby making numerical comparisons pointless even if they didn't have a bias.
But even ignoring all of that, PolitiFact didn't even exist until 2007 and thus were in no position to really do such evaluations for any president before Obama (there was only a small amount of overlap with Bush, and Bush basically dropped from the public eye after he left the presidency). So even ignoring the above issues, at most your data would suggest he made more false statements than Obama, because he's the only one you can validly compare Trump to with that data. So how about the 43 presidents before Obama that PolitiFact provides little to no actual data in regards to? Got any actual data to show that Trump made more false statements than any of them? That was your claim, after all, that he was breaking records.Last edited by Terraceth; 02-05-2018, 06:57 PM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRepeating myself, but...
since you seem enamored with this sort of thing, a 2014 FOX News poll found that 81% of respondents believed that Obama lied about important matters at least some of the time.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRepeating myself, but...
since you seem enamored with this sort of thing, a 2014 FOX News poll found that 81% of respondents believed that Obama lied about important matters at least some of the time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...t-matters.html
And here's a list of over 1000 of Obama's biggest lies:
https://freedomoutpost.com/1063-docu...isy-waste-etc/
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