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  • When is "too old" to run for office?

    People are living longer than ever and medical advances are able to keep them in better health than ever, but still a lot of US political figures are getting quite old. In many jobs people tend to retire at 60-65 but it seems like that's the age at which many US politicians are just getting started. The mean age of democrats in congress is now above 60, while the mean age of Republicans in congress is only slightly below 60.

    Is there a point at which age alone makes them 'too old' to run? Or is it a matter of physical / mental health? If you can give an hour long speech without falling over or dribbling then is that good enough? (I would like to add 'and without sounding like a total nutter', but clearly Trump, Palin, Bachmann etc prove that's not a US requirement)

    Given Trump's allegedly declining mental health, I think a lot of people would see it as reasonable that politicians had to pass standard basic mental health checks administered by professionals. But if so, what sort of level of competence should be required? The congressional pharmacist apparently commented to a reporter that he provides Alzheimer's drugs to multiple members of congress - is it acceptable to members who are receiving treatment for a progressive mental disorder?

    Should any particular level of physical health be required? Or are brain tumors (e.g. John McCain), being confined to a wheel chair (e.g. FDR) etc fine?

    My main motivations for bringing this up are: (1) Donald Trump's allegedly declining mental health, (2) Bernie Sanders' upcoming 2020 presidential run at the age of what will be 80, (3) Dianne Feinstein's choice to run again for senate this year at the age of 84, (4) ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio floating the idea of a senate run at the age of 85.

    Some ages of prominent older politicians and possible politicians:
    Joe Arpaio - 85 (currently floating a senate run)
    Diane Feinstein - 84 (currently running for another 6 year term)
    Chuck Grassley - 84
    Orin Hatch - 83 (retiring)
    John McCain - 81 (71 in 2008 when his age was mentioned as a possible issue in the race against Obama)
    Nancy Pelosi - 77
    Bernie Sanders - 76
    Joe Biden - 75
    Mitch McConnell - 75
    Donald Trump - 71
    Chuck Schumer - 67
    Steve Bannon - 64
    Oprah Winfrey - 63
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    Being confined to a wheelchair is not an issue with me. Mental sharpness is what matters to me.

    Joe Arpaio would be nearly 93 by the time his Senate term ends. Sorry to say but that is probably too old.

    At 71, Trump isn't even in the discussion. I'm leery of attempts to psychoanalyze him; it seems like a good way to demonize people with mental illness. It seems clear that he does not have the moral character to serve without bringing his health into it.
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    • #3
      If you can't get out of your casket by yourself, you're too old, and probably too ripe. Otherwise, a smart 95 year old beats a doofus 20 something any day (or a doofus 35 year old).
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        People are living longer than ever and medical advances are able to keep them in better health than ever, but still a lot of US political figures are getting quite old. In many jobs people tend to retire at 60-65 but it seems like that's the age at which many US politicians are just getting started. The mean age of democrats in congress is now above 60, while the mean age of Republicans in congress is only slightly below 60.

        Is there a point at which age alone makes them 'too old' to run? Or is it a matter of physical / mental health?
        It is matter of energy.
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        • #5
          Depends on the state of the person, but I think as long as the person is likely to have the endurance and stamina and sharpness of wit to last those years, then they're fit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
            Given Trump's allegedly declining mental health...
            Fake news.
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            • #7
              I'm not as concerned about age as I am about entrenchment - I'm for term limits across the board. We don't let POTUS serve more than two terms, why should anybody else be allowed to?
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                It's quite possible that some members of Congress are taking Alzheimer's medication in hopes of staving it off, not because they've been diagnosed with it. I'd think getting a diagnosis of Alzheimer's would be an automatic disqualifier for further office.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  I'm not as concerned about age as I am about entrenchment - I'm for term limits across the board. We don't let POTUS serve more than two terms, why should anybody else be allowed to?
                  The limit for POTUS is solely due to George Washington's precedent and Republican angst when FDR violated it. I'm for term limits, but we should drop the "pay for life" of those no longer serving.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    The limit for POTUS is solely due to George Washington's precedent and Republican angst when FDR violated it. I'm for term limits, but we should drop the "pay for life" of those no longer serving.
                    yes

                    ETA - and they should live under the same rules as the rest of us.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      It seems clear that he does not have the moral character to serve without bringing his health into it.
                      When did "serving" require moral character?
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                      • #12
                        This is actually a good thing. It limits their time in office. They will eventually keel over and make room for someone else. Until we get term limits for congress, electing old farts is the best way to get turnover.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                          When did "serving" require moral character?
                          It depends on what you mean by "serve". Most politicians are more about self-serving than serving.
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                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                          • #14
                            Ruth Bader Ginzberg has been dead for four years, and she has no plans to retire.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                              Ruth Bader Ginzberg has been dead for four years, and she has no plans to retire.
                              Can you imagine if they ever figure out how to download someone into a computer? We will never get rid of them!

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