Record Cold, US and Europe: Global Warming?

[shunyadragon]

Better long term assessment of Atlantic hurricanes. As far as the Atlantic Hurricanes the evidence is not conclusive;



By my memory, the trend of occurrence and intensity of hurricanes and tropical storms are not the best evidence for global warming, but there are trends I can reference.

Next the Pacific and Indian Ocean.

[Tassman]

Al Gore is probably one of the biggest hypocrites of the climate change narrative...

Blood And Gore: Making A Killing On Anti-Carbon Investment Hype

Marketing Climate Alarm:

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

I prefer to trust the majority of qualified scientists, who do not consider global warming a hoax, rather than an unqualified conspiracy theorist who does

[seer]

Better long term assessment of Atlantic hurricanes. As far as the Atlantic Hurricanes the evidence is not conclusive.

Tell that to JimL who blamed this last hurricane season on AGW

By my memory, the trend of occurrence and intensity of hurricanes and tropical storms are not the best evidence for global warming, but there are trends I can reference.

Next the Pacific and Indian Ocean.

How can you quantify any of this? How many hurricanes are average? Average compared to what?

[shunyadragon]

Tell that to JimL who blamed this last hurricane season on AGW

I do not listen to JimL. I follow more academic sources. Your source was 2015 and only addressed a short term 'drought' in hurricanes in the Atlantic, and did not address the issue of climate change. My sources will address global trends and longer term trends. There are some factors of tropical storms that indicate an impact of climate change, but again not enough information yet for the indication of a 'strong' influence of global warming on tropical storm frequency and strength.

If the current long term trend continues there will be stronger support for the relationship between climate change and tropical storms.

Actually the major evidence for climate change is other 'long term' changes since the industrial revolution such as the consistent increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, and the resulting changes in climate.

How can you quantify any of this? How many hurricanes are average? Average compared to what?

Average compared to long term data, and not short term selective data. The sources I will cite will address this and the associated problems.

[Cow Poke]

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

I prefer to trust the majority of qualified scientists, who do not consider global warming a hoax, rather than an unqualified conspiracy theorist who does

Did Al Gore's predictions of doom come true? And I don't believe he was 'declaring climate change a hoax". I believe he was exposing Al Gore for the scam artist he is.

[shunyadragon]

Did Al Gore's predictions of doom come true? And I don't believe he was 'declaring climate change a hoax". I believe he was exposing Al Gore for the scam artist he is.

Al Gore is not a scientific source.

[Cow Poke]

Al Gore is not a scientific source.

And I never claimed he was. In fact, if you actually read the thread instead of just defaulting to your standard "you're wrong", you'd find that my complaint is that Al Gore did climate science great harm with his alarmist horse crap.

And your lack of defense of Gore seems to suggest you might agree.

[seer]

Average compared to long term data, and not short term selective data. The sources I will cite will address this and the associated problems.

What long term data? A hundred years? Two hundred? A thousand? Ten thousand?

[shunyadragon]

And I never claimed he was. In fact, if you actually read the thread instead of just defaulting to your standard "you're wrong", you'd find that my complaint is that Al Gore did climate science great harm with his alarmist horse crap.

And your lack of defense of Gore seems to suggest you might agree.

i question why Al Gore keeps being referred to in these discussions when everyone here and in academic science does not accept him as an academic source on climate change.

[Cow Poke]

i question why Al Gore keeps being referred to in these discussions when everyone here and in academic science does not accept him as an academic source on climate change.

Let me type really slowly.....

It is one of the reasons that climate skeptics have a hard time buying into the science. The "fear factor" has a backlash.

[shunyadragon]

What long term data? A hundred years? Two hundred? A thousand? Ten thousand?

Your whipping a dead horse. As I said tropical storm data is NOT at present a major indicator of climate change. The sources I will cite will go into this. The elephant in the room is you cited a very short term old study on a hurricane 'drought' that did not mention climate change. What's up with citing this not relevant source?

[demi-conservative]

Dear libs, also progs:

Every year less people care about human global warming, also 'sky is falling!!!!!!!!'

Mwahahahahaha.

XOXOXO
Conservatives

[demi-conservative]

i question why Al Gore keeps being referred to in these discussions when everyone here and in academic science does not accept him as an academic source on climate change.

He, also other idiots cried wolf so many times. You libs, also progs, liked that...until bigtime backfire

XOXOXO

[Mountain Man]

How can you quantify any of this? How many hurricanes are average? Average compared to what?

You gotta watch out for the alarmist bait-and-switch: they say "average", but they really mean "correct" or "ideal", as if whatever arbitrary range they base their average on is an objective measure. Then they'll say, "Such-and-such is higher or lower than average," implying that whatever they're talking about is wrong and needs to be corrected. It's even more fun when the "average" is based on fabricated data. It's quite the scam all around.

[shunyadragon]

Let me type really slowly.....

It is one of the reasons that climate skeptics have a hard time buying into the science. The "fear factor" has a backlash.

Let me type really really slowly . . .

Everyone needs to refer to and understand academic sources and not the yellow journalism from the extreme views from AL Gore to Breitbart nonacademic sources.