Media Bias

[carpedm9587]

You know, I could have just told the list wasn't chronological but alphabetical, categorical or in order of importance.

[Mountain Man]

Of course the mainstream media insists that they're not biased, and that every time they're caught publishing a false report that would make President Trump look bad if it was true, they claim that it's just an honest mistake, but Breitbart ran the numbers and found that these "honest mistakes" are overwhelmingly if not exclusively unfavorable to the President, and they could find no "honest mistakes" that make Democrats look bad, and in Obama's 8-years in office, they were entirely capable of avoiding similar "honest mistakes".

So the question is not "Is the mainstream media liberally biased?" but "To what extent is the mainstream media liberally biased?"

[Mountain Man]

I stand by Brietbart being "far-right" however. I quick look at their news AND opinion site shows them to be exactly what they profess to be - the voice of the alt-right.

Eh... you gotta look at the context. Steve Bannon used that term before it was appropriated by the left to be a synonym for racism and white supremacy. In the article where Bannon used that phrase

[Mountain Man]

I think a centrist is a lot like a moderate in that it's a label someone chooses when they're uncertain of or afraid to be honest about their politics, although in my experience, it's mostly liberals who look for an alternative label. It's like an office mate of mine who insists that he's a moderate, claims he doesn't lean left or right, yet he and I disagree on just about every single political and social issue.

[carpedm9587]

Eh... you gotta look at the context. Steve Bannon used that term before it was appropriated by the left to be a synonym for racism and white supremacy. In the article where Bannon used that phrase

How do you know what I think it means?

[Mountain Man]

How do you know what I think it means?

Let's call it an educated guess.

[carpedm9587]

How do you know what I think it means?

You're wrong.

But if history is any indication, I think I'm about to be told that you know better than I what I am actually thinking. Or I'm a hypocrite. Or I'm intellectually dishonest.

I do have to wonder why any of you who think those things of me even bother to respond. It seems rather pointless.

[Cow Poke]

You're wrong.

But if history is any indication, I think I'm about to be told that you know better than I what I am actually thinking. Or I'm a hypocrite. Or I'm intellectually dishonest.

I do have to wonder why any of you who think those things of me even bother to respond. It seems rather pointless.

How bout just laying out what you think it means.

[carpedm9587]

How bout just laying out what you think it means.

Nah... that would be too simple

OK - fair enough. The term "alt-right," I believe, was originally meant to refer to the further right part of the Republican party in general, excluding moderates and those who might actually embrace debate and compromise. Politically, the vestiges of the "Tea Party" and those to their right. Collectively, they supported a nationalistic and populist political approach.

Since then, the term has essentially been hijacked by white nationalists who have claimed association with the title and use it as a self-reference. The problem here is, this has not been unambiguously rejected by other memebers of the "alt-right" - as far as I can tell. It has, finally, been rejected by more mainstream Republicans.

I remember the 1996 Republican convention, when then-candidate Bob Dole stood up and said, without any ambiguity: "The Republican Party is broad and inclusive. It represents many streams of opinion and many points of view. But if there's anyone who has mistakenly attached themselves to our party in the belief that we are not open to citizens of every race and religion, then let me remind you, tonight this hall belongs to the Party of Lincoln. And the exits, which are clearly marked, are for you to walk out of as I stand this ground without compromise.

I was never much of a Dole fan - but that was a spot-on statement. These days, it seems to take the Republican party a long time before it finally steps forward and say anything like that, and it often seems to be a grudging statement - as if knowing that making it will lose them support they need.

Now someone please point me to a Brietbart story, by an editor or other senior memeber of Brietbart, that clearly and unambiguously divorces that site from white supremacist and neo-nazis, and rejects their ideology in all its forms.

[Mountain Man]

Now someone please point me to a Brietbart story, by an editor or other senior memeber of Brietbart, that clearly and unambiguously divorces that site from white supremacist and neo-nazis, and rejects their ideology in all its forms.

Are Steve Bannon's own words not good enough for you? I posted this earlier, but you appear to have ignored it.

(Note the source.)

Source: Mother Jones

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...reitbart-news/

© Copyright Original Source

Like I said, it doesn't mean what you think it means.

[Raphael]

I'm pretty centrist (center right by NZ standards, so probably the same as the UK, but center left by US standards). I'm more socially conservative and pretty central on economic policy.

When it comes to abortion I'm completely against it (except for the rare cases of things like ectopic pregnancy). I don't think there is a centrist view on abortion. you're either for it or against it.

[carpedm9587]

Are Steve Bannon's own words not good enough for you? I posted this earlier, but you appear to have ignored it.

(Note the source.)

Source: Mother Jones

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...reitbart-news/

© Copyright Original Source

Like I said, it doesn't mean what you think it means.

I am not seeing a disconnect between what Bannon said, what has happened since, and what I posted.

And I do not read Mother Jones either - for the same reason I don't read Brietbart. It is essentially the "National Enquirer" of the left, just as Brietbart is the "National Enquirer" of the right, IMO.

[guacamole]

I am not seeing a disconnect between what Bannon said, what has happened since, and what I posted.

And I do not read Mother Jones either - for the same reason I don't read Brietbart. It is essentially the "National Enquirer" of the left, just as Brietbart is the "National Enquirer" of the right, IMO.

I believe you just insulted the National Enquirer twice. They publish top notch fiction. Not like those other doggerel rags that aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

[Cow Poke]

I'm pretty centrist (center right by NZ standards, so probably the same as the UK, but center left by US standards). I'm more socially conservative and pretty central on economic policy.

When it comes to abortion I'm completely against it (except for the rare cases of things like ectopic pregnancy). I don't think there is a centrist view on abortion. you're either for it or against it.

Again, kinda like a "centrist view" on the annihilation of the Jewish State by the Arabs. You're either for it or against it.

(I'm trying to think if I've ever actually heard the termination of an ectopic pregnancy being referred to as an "abortion")

[EvoUK]

Again, kinda like a "centrist view" on the annihilation of the Jewish State by the Arabs. You're either for it or against it.