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  • A lady in Alabama by the name of Apryl Marie Fogel has authored a blog post that nicely articulates some of my observations re the allegations against Judge Roy Moore:
    Roy Moore opponents set up false choice for voters

    Source: https://altoday.com/archives/19811-r...-choice-voters

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    • Jones has launched attack ads - which do NOT mention that Jones is a Democrat.

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      • Originally posted by John Reece View Post
        A lady in Alabama by the name of Apryl Marie Fogel has authored a blog post that nicely articulates some of my observations re the allegations against Judge Roy Moore:
        Roy Moore opponents set up false choice for voters

        Source: https://altoday.com/archives/19811-r...-choice-voters
        Nobody is forcing anyone to feel guilty for voting for Moore. What you do as an individual is weigh the evidence and decide. Are all these unconnected women lying about their experiences with Moore, or is Moore lying about all of those women. If you are going to feel guilty for voting for Moore, then don't vote for him, but don't blame others for your own feelings of guilt.

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        • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
          Are all these unconnected women lying about their experiences with Moore...
          The only two that matter most likely are: Corfman and Nelson.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            That's like when a Muslim excuses pedophilia because Muhammad married a six year old and had sex with her when she's nine.
            I have NEVER heard a Muslim person do that. I HAVE heard people accuse Muslims of defending pedophilia on the basis that Muhammad is claimed to have done those things. But I have never heard or seen that defense made. Does someone have a link to where this is documented?
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            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Nobody is forcing anyone to feel guilty for voting for Moore. What you do as an individual is weigh the evidence and decide. Are all these unconnected women lying about their experiences with Moore, or is Moore lying about all of those women. If you are going to feel guilty for voting for Moore, then don't vote for him, but don't blame others for your own feelings of guilt.
              Two. That's it. Two - one of which provided evidence that had been tampered with and the other who can't substantiate even the basics of her story.

              FYI - you proved the author's point - using 'all' instead' of 'two' is a not terribly subtle way of implying that there is something wrong with you if you vote for Moore in the face of those accusations.
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              • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                I have NEVER hard a Muslim person do that.
                I think some of our Muslim posters have taken that position, though they are about as rare on this board as Mormons, of late.

                I HAVE heard people accuse Muslims of defending pedophilia on the basis that Muhammad is claimed to have done those things. But I have never heard or seen that defense made. Does someone have a link to where this is documented?
                Unfortunately, it probably died with old Tweb.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  Two. That's it. Two - one of which provided evidence that had been tampered with and the other who can't substantiate even the basics of her story.

                  FYI - you proved the author's point - using 'all' instead' of 'two' is a not terribly subtle way of implying that there is something wrong with you if you vote for Moore in the face of those accusations.
                  Cut him some slack, TL - he's only regurgitating what he reads in his 'liberal talking points for dummies" faxes.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Cut him some slack, TL - he's only regurgitating what he reads in his 'liberal talking points for dummies" faxes.
                    and he purposly keeps his blinders on so he does not see anything else but what he wants to see. Unfortunetly he had a poor teacher in STarlight for how to argue your points.

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                    • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                      Two. That's it. Two - one of which provided evidence that had been tampered with and the other who can't substantiate even the basics of her story.
                      Wrong. Two accusers of actual sexual abuse on the part of Moore, and a bunch more that support his having a penchant for, and a stalking and harassing of adolesent girls, as well as giving them alcohol.
                      FYI - you proved the author's point - using 'all' instead' of 'two' is a not terribly subtle way of implying that there is something wrong with you if you vote for Moore in the face of those accusations.
                      Whether I believe there is something wrong with someone casting a vote for Moore is besides the point, my belief isn't the cause of the guilty feelings that supporters of Moore might experience, their own conscience is. If you actually believe that the women are making these stories up whole cloth then there is no reason for you to feel guilty, but if you feel guilty about supporting Moore then it's obviously because you believe the girls and voted for Moore anyway.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Cut him some slack, TL - he's only regurgitating what he reads in his 'liberal talking points for dummies" faxes.
                        I see you're resorting to your childish name calling again, eh CP?

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          I see you're resorting to your childish name calling again, eh CP?
                          What name did I call whom, Jimmy?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            What name did I call whom, Jimmy?
                            Your subtlety might fool some CP, but it doesn't escape me. I doubt it's fooling many others either.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Cut him some slack, TL - he's only regurgitating what he reads in his 'liberal talking points for dummies" faxes.
                              This gratuitous comment constitutes a constructive contribution to the discussion in your mind, does it?

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                              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                The only two that matter most likely are: Corfman and Nelson.
                                http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...112-story.html

                                According the Pew Research Center, 49% of Alabama adults are Evangelical Protestants and these comprise a large percentage of those who supported Trump and who are supporting Moore, despite the sexual allegations against both. And, because of this Evangelicals are steadily losing their moral authority within the electorate...a fact that has not gone unnoticed by senior Republicans.

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