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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI mean, so what? Are they in power now? If not, then what's preventing enforcers from enforcing, and shutting up their critics by showing results?
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Seems this guy had quite the past. He assaulted his wife and stepchild in 2011, escaped from a mental hospital in 2012, and was later court-martialed and received a bad-conduct discharge from the Air Force. Yet none of this showed up in his background check. That's mind boggling. I know a guy with a misdemeanor from nearly 30-years that still shows up on his record. How did this fellow slip through the cracks?
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...2-says-report/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by seer View PostYeah, you found one! BTW - did the bill pass?
Originally posted by seer View PostFrom your link:
However, the bill has run up against opposition from those who believe the prisons are already overcrowded with African-American males, many of whom would see longer sentences under the new law. (I mentioned this as a possible byproduct of tougher penalties in a column last April.) And, of course, the term "mandatory minimum" has become a shibboleth for those who believe tougher sentences adversely affect the African-American communities in large cities.
Originally posted by seer View PostDid you even read the link? ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations.
Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostOk, so what in practice do you feel could make the difference in the enforcement of current laws? Do you think that some special committee should be formed to observe and force law enforcers to enforce their laws? I mean, it sounds like you just want talking heads to get on TV and say "thank God for guns, we need more enforcement!" But...we already have talking heads doing that, and as far as I can tell that's not doing a whole lot.
I am upset that they are calling for more restrictions instead of pointing out the failure of the law enforcers to enforce the laws we already have. Maybe if they started enforcing the law that says lying on the background check form is a felony for example? Or taking away the license from gun dealers if they don't do a proper background check and the guy ends up killing someone.
If we already have laws that can help but are not being enforced, why are they not complaining about THAT on the MSM and in the Capitol?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou apparently overlooked the first of the sentence. And again, all indications are that the critics are not interested in how much the laws are enforced regardless of who is currently in power. All they ever do is demand that more and more laws get passed.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSeems this guy had quite the past. He assaulted his wife and stepchild in 2011, escaped from a mental hospital in 2012, and was later court-martialed and received a bad-conduct discharge from the Air Force. Yet none of this showed up in his background check. That's mind boggling. I know a guy with a misdemeanor from nearly 30-years that still shows up on his record. How did this fellow slip through the cracks?
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...2-says-report/
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postso if enforcing the current laws is not practical, why are they pushing for more laws that will not be enforced?
I am upset that they are calling for more restrictions instead of pointing out the failure of the law enforcers to enforce the laws we already have. Maybe if they started enforcing the law that says lying on the background check form is a felony for example? Or taking away the license from gun dealers if they don't do a proper background check and the guy ends up killing someone.
If we already have laws that can help but are not being enforced, why are they not complaining about THAT on the MSM and in the Capitol?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIs anyone, either on the left or right making these complaints? Are you just angry at gun control advocates on this issue, or the system as a whole? What if the laws are in fact being enforced (or as enforced as they reasonably can be), but it's still not doing enough? I think that's the concern of most gun control advocates.
Or maybe they don't work because, um... CRIMINALS don't obey laws?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostOne of the things that i find disturbing is that the guy was, from all reports, a raving atheist, and that's not getting reported barely at all. I don't think the guy's atheism necessarily pushed him into shooting up a church. You don't shoot up a church cause you're an atheist, you shoot up a church cause you're nuts or because you're possessed, or something. But the fact that it isn't getting any media attention at all when, if the reverse was done (a Christian shooting up an secularist meeting), they'd be having a field day about it, is just... I don't know. It's not right.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostOne of the things that i find disturbing is that the guy was, from all reports, a raving atheist, and that's not getting reported barely at all. I don't think the guy's atheism necessarily pushed him into shooting up a church. You don't shoot up a church cause you're an atheist, you shoot up a church cause you're nuts or because you're possessed, or something. But the fact that it isn't getting any media attention at all when, if the reverse was done (a Christian shooting up an secularist meeting), they'd be having a field day about it, is just... I don't know. It's not right.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postobviously they aren't or this guy would not have gotten a gun.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostOr maybe they don't work because, um... CRIMINALS don't obey laws?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIs anyone, either on the left or right making these complaints? Are you just angry at gun control advocates on this issue, or the system as a whole? What if the laws are in fact being enforced (or as enforced as they reasonably can be), but it's still not doing enough? I think that's the concern of most gun control advocates."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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