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Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI just did. You even quoted it.
And the God of Judaism is ... wait for it, wait for it ... the God of Christianity!
This, my friend, is what is commonly referred to as an "own goal".
So I ask again, if it's not referring to the Christian God then which other "god" could it possibly be referring to?
Look, son, there's no shame in conceding the match when you're so far behind that you have no hope of catching up.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI suggest you learn the difference between incluenced bysomething, vs being based on it.
You simply can not divorce Christian thought and principles from the DoI and the founding of this nation. Never mind the fact that most states codified Christian prohibitions on certain behaviors into law. Laws against sodomy, adultery, fornication, working on the Sabbath, even blasphemy, to name a few.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou simply can not divorce Christian thought and principles from the DoI and the founding of this nation.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNotice how he bailed on this thread when I pressed him to tell me which other "god" it could possibly be referring to if not the Christian God.It's not the first time he's embarrassed himself in his often desperate attempts to prove me wrong about something. Just look at his signature where he claims that two non-contradictory statements somehow contradict.
You're an idiot.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd the God of Judaism is ... wait for it, wait for it ... the God of Christianity!
This, my friend, is what is commonly referred to as an "own goal".Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by seer View PostThe point is Roy the DoI was not written in a vacuum, much of what the founders used, their ideas, came from men like Locke, based on Scripture. Never mind the strong influence the work "Lex Rex" by the Christian writer Samuel Rutherford had on men like Madison: http://liberty-virtue-independence.b...x-law-and.html
You simply can not divorce Christian thought and principles from the DoI and the founding of this nation.
If not, I'm not interested in anything you write.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostSo you still claim Luke's account that "can't be tested" is "bang-on accurate".Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo you still claim Luke's account that "can't be tested" is "bang-on accurate".
"[Glenn Miller's essay] has more than enough facts and data to support the conclusion that Luke's history was bang-on accurate with regards to who conducted the census and when."
"...there are historical points on which the Bible can't be tested for one reason or another, for instance, cases where the data is incomplete, such as the Lukan census which has a number of plausible solutions but is, at worst, untestable due to a lack of conclusive evidence."Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostOriginally posted by Mountain ManAnd the God of Judaism is ... wait for it, wait for it ... the God of Christianity!
This, my friend, is what is commonly referred to as an "own goal".
It's rather hilarious, actually. I hope you don't change.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Roy View PostIt most certainly was:
"[Glenn Miller's essay] has more than enough facts and data to support the conclusion that Luke's history was bang-on accurate with regards to who conducted the census and when."
"...there are historical points on which the Bible can't be tested for one reason or another, for instance, cases where the data is incomplete, such as the Lukan census which has a number of plausible solutions but is, at worst, untestable due to a lack of conclusive evidence."
I can't believe you still haven't wrapped your head around this nuance.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo it's untestable at worst but still has more than enough facts and data to support the conclusion that Luke's history was bang-on accurate with regards to who conducted the census and when.
Why do you think Miller's essay supports the conclusion that Luke was "bang-on accurate" when Miller himself reached a different conclusion?
How can Luke's account be bang-on accurate when it has a number of plausible solutions?
Why did you provide two completely different solutions both as being correct?
If Luke's account is only untestable at worst why did you say it couldn't be tested?
These questions will never be answered.
I can't believe you still haven't wrapped your head around this nuance.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostSo who did conduct the census, and when?
Why do you think Miller's essay supports the conclusion that Luke was "bang-on accurate" when Miller himself reached a different conclusion?
How can Luke's account be bang-on accurate when it has a number of plausible solutions?
Why did you provide two completely different solutions both as being correct?
If Luke's account is only untestable at worst why did you say it couldn't be tested?
These questions will never be answered.
I can believe that you think it helps you, even though it doesn't.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIf you don't mind, I'll just leave you twisting in the wind on this one.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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