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Junior's meeting with Russian lawyer: no smoking gun
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYeah cos Mueller hires a dream-team of the nation's top prosecutors, impanels a grand jury, and conducts a pre-dawn
raid... because it's a total nothingburger and he knows it will come to nothing..?
Seriously? What sort of alternative reality are you living in?
Dude you've completely lost the plot. SoR's right: You guys are pathetic to watch and trying to have a conversation with you is like having one with a small child.
Twenty years ago, conservatives used the powers of a special counsel to embark on a never ending fishing expedition against Bill Clinton because they were still sore about the election via Ken Starr - a conservative activist. It started out with a real estate deal called Whitewater, but it ended in a completely unrelated perjury trap concerning a sexual affair between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky that Starr set-up. A lot of liberals felt that it was wrong that Starrs investigation was allowed to wonder around into completely unrelated matters, but conservatives felt the ends justified the means.
Now they're worried that the same thing could happen to Trump. He may come out completely clean in any conspiracy with Russian nationals, but Mueller may run across a matter that is not directly connected to the election like... Trumps extensive list of shady dealings with foreign interests. Too bad, they've got to live with he precedents they've set.
The Washington Times (a conservative rag) is reporting just that this evening.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ation-hints-a/
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First of all, she wasn't a "Kremlin-linked lawyer"; secondly, there was no indication that the promised information had been acquired illegally, and it turned out she didn't have any information anyway; third, there was no talk in the meeting about Russia supporting the Trump campaign, financially or otherwise. This is is what the evidence shows and is highly significant because liberals have been insisting for months that this meeting was the smoking gun that would finally put Trump away for good. But, like always, it turns out to be much ado about nothing.
But since you insist it's illegal for a US political campaign to collude in anyway with a foreign government then you're no doubt ready to condemn Hillary for colluding with the Ukrainian government to dig up information that she actually did use in an attempt to hurt Trump's chances. Right?
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ackfire-233446Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostWho are 'the liberals' in this conversation? CNN?
I think it would be a wonderful world if all news organisations spent their frontpage, every friday, on the things they were wrong about in the last week. Each commentator doing a similar errata of what they had gone through. Alas, humans are sinful, and therefore vain, and therefore saying "I was wrong" is difficult.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostUm... of course Trump colluded with the Russians. Duh? If you seriously think he didn't after everything that's been revealed, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
Every week further revelations make Mueller's investigation look worse and worse for Trump and his family. At this point I anticipate Trump and half a dozen of his associates being hit with at least a dozen charges each.
Don't confuse the OP article which is specifically about a tiny piece of evidence, for the whole investigation itself. Just because the notes that Manafort made during one particular meeting aren't a smoking gun, it in no way implies there aren't a couple of dozen smoking guns.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostYou're talking to people that seriously considered the idea that CNN set-up a flash flood rescue for ratings because a video was out of sync, so don't hold your breath for them to start being rational any time soon.
It's pathetic to watch really. This site used to have a lot of intelligent thoughtful thinkers on the conservative side, but since Trumpism hit the ground here in the US, the conservative movement has gone mad dog crazy, and talking to them is like a conversation with a small child. At this point, Tweb conservatives have gone full retard, and Alex Jones conspiracy theories are taken seriously now.
To borrow a word from Trump: sad.
If anyone is completely overreacting here, it seems to be you. You have turned from a fairly reasonable guy into a flaming drama queen lately.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYeah cos Mueller hires a dream-team of the nation's top prosecutors, impanels a grand jury, and conducts a pre-dawn
raid... because it's a total nothingburger and he knows it will come to nothing..?
Seriously? What sort of alternative reality are you living in?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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There's also the fact that Mueller's "dream team" is being paid handsomely. Who wouldn't take that job even if they knew it was a wild goose chase? Not to mention the prestige of adding that credential to a resume.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThere's also the fact that Mueller's "dream team" is being paid handsomely. Who wouldn't take that job even if they knew it was a wild goose chase? Not to mention the prestige of adding that credential to a resume.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThe most scary part about that is that as bad as it would have been it would still have been far batter.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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