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"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe juxtaposition captures the massive lie at the very heart of Trumpism as perfectly as anyone could ask for. Protect the rich and to hell with the poor...especially the non-white poor."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDeport the brown people, let the poor people die off, and then you're only left with white rich people. A perfect Republican Utopia."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDeport the brown people, let the poor people die off, and then you're only left with white rich people. A perfect Republican Utopia.
Because we all know brown people are incapable of following laws the rest of us have to follow or are actually starving in the streets of Mexico and the rest of central and South America (well they are in liberal utopia of Venezuela, but don't tell Starlight that)."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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most of the dreamers I've seen look considerably whiter than the average mexican"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostThey should go back to a country where they've never really lived, where they are unfamiliar with the customs and people, where they are outsiders.
Originally posted by Starlight View PostImagine what it would feel like to be one of these people, shipped out of the country you've lived in from your earliest memories until now, and transferred to a country you don't remember ever being in and where you can't speak the language.
Unfortunately, I've learned to expect this kind of sadistic political policy from the sick and twisted evil Republican 'Christian' sociopaths in the US.
Originally posted by guacamole View PostI agree that much of it is sociopathic. As if we cannot provide for compassion and rule of law. As if we cannot secure the borders without screwing over a whole lot of people who didn't choose to do anything wrong when they were brought here.
Still has to be done.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by guacamole View Postethically and honorably
This needs to stop so it won't happen again when next dem gets into power, and other kids put in same situation! Sad!!!Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's funny how liberals want to blame everybody except those who broke the law."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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A possible manifesto:
1. We demand the union of all Americans in a Great America on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
2. We demand that the American people have rights equal to those of other nations.
3. We demand land and territory for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens.
5. Those who are not American citizens must live in America as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the States shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the state governments, or at county level, shall be held by anyone who is not an American citizen.
7. We demand that the government shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from America.
8. Any further immigration of non-Americans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Americans who have entered America illegally shall be compelled to leave America immediately.
Any objections?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI Came to America When I Was Three. What Am I Supposed to Do in Mexico?
Imagine what it would feel like to be one of these people, shipped out of the country you've lived in from your earliest memories until now, and transferred to a country you don't remember ever being in and where you can't speak the language.
Unfortunately, I've learned to expect this kind of sadistic political policy from the sick and twisted evil Republican 'Christian' sociopaths in the US.
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No, Trump just wants Congress to do their job and if they want to let the dreamers stay, they need to pass an actual law and make it legal for them to stay instead of relying on an executive order that goes against the current laws.
Trump has said that he thinks something needs to be done to help these people and he has put it on congress's shoulders to do the right thing.
Trump: "I have a great heart for these folks we're talking about. A great love for them and people think in terms of children but they're really young adults. I have a love for these people and hopefully now Congress will be able to help them and do it properly,"Last edited by Sparko; 09-07-2017, 07:29 AM.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostA possible manifesto:
1. We demand the union of all Americans in a Great America on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
2. We demand that the American people have rights equal to those of other nations.
3. We demand land and territory for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens.
5. Those who are not American citizens must live in America as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the States shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the state governments, or at county level, shall be held by anyone who is not an American citizen.
7. We demand that the government shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from America.
8. Any further immigration of non-Americans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Americans who have entered America illegally shall be compelled to leave America immediately.
Any objections?
Nobody here wants to prevent LEGAL immigration. America is founded on immigrants. We are a melting pot. We don't want to stop immigration. We want to prevent ILLEGAL immigration.Last edited by Sparko; 09-07-2017, 07:25 AM.
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